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Since we will be fined by possible innocent infractions, is it possible to receive a framework for what pricing we should be expecting to receive? I understand we cannot transfer juniors 14-15 anymore, but I do not want to be fined nor retained for purchasing an older junior for a good price. Thank you for your understanding and hard work |
16/10/2012 14:59 |
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This is my take. Lets keep this open and honest. No need for this to close, this needs to be worked out and discussed. In light of the new price ceilings being enforced, I have to say my patience with this game is less then mediocre with these non fathomable reasons. I understand the need for "injecting" socialist keynesian policy, but you are doing it all wrong. Creating a fine system to help bridge the time between figuring everything out and finally getting stuff together was a bad idea and has hurt this game beyond enjoyable. Now its juniors with auction restraints, okay fine by me, but now telling how much a player is worth? ( well not really we will fine you if you go over, but the market will tell you the price) okay so how can you have free market ideology when you have a price ceiling in effect? No good, this seriously allows for everyone else before the changes to flourish (myself included) or stay in there divisions and not progress in a timely manner. The system works around the junior marketplace. Our teams main focus is the training of junior players to build and compete, create revenue and manage income flow. Putting a noose on that very vein for which most of this game is circulated around will not help. Looking back in the last two seasons and a bit prior I can say this much: You have lowered deposit intrest rates so people like myself who finally saved and earned over 100mil, got stuck with 6.9 to 7.1 % interest rates when everyone else flourished with 10 to whatever percent it was prior to season 5 or 6. (those who had more than 100 mil in deposits before change in rates made out) Stopped flow of system bot players hitting marketplace allowing for older high average players to be bought by managers in div 4,5 and 6. Then they restarted for one season and then stopped again. The amount of good high 85-99fc players are scarce, which meant the higher the fc to 85 meant more money, then there was an influx of gk and mids with high 85fc to 93fc being infiltrated. Supposedly to co trol gk prices ( im assuming, dont know real reason) I guess mids where an indirect oversight. Created fine system for anyone "round tripping" or paying below market vakue. (good busIness is not rewarded here. Negotiating is part of the game) Now restricted junior selling with auctions for 14 to 15 yr olds. Now restricting junior purchases above or over market prices. Next will be all players. So managers stu k in the middle are screwed. Div 1 and 2 are good . Div 4,5,6 will reap some benefits butnget screwed in the end when they are still complaing about not making enough money. Nigerians, no more day trading here got that. Oh and a store which somehow will add more money into the system then actualky taking out. my reasons for permently leaving the game in another season or being less active are somewhat detailed as can be for typing on a phone this has been a terrible experience and will only cpntinue to get worse. Best thing is that , how the hell is SM and its staff suppose to play goverment involvement when we dont even have a two way line of communication. Again, my apologies, typing on a galaxy phone in the work place is a hell of a multi tasking feat, so i have not edited my words. Edited by cmccourt 16-10-2012 15:20 |
16/10/2012 15:20 |
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Spot on cmccourt.. How are you suppose to make money when all the possible doors are shut by the developers. The new rules diminish the importance of schools in this game as all the new players produced in the game are 14-15yrs old and it is absurd that they are not a part of negotiating transfer. Not all managers boast the luxury of golden balls to market a players forecast or progression. All this new so called rules are making the rate of development of this game so slow. And most of all much of the managers are real frustrated. I hope admins will take this matter seriously and will do some new adjustments. |
16/10/2012 15:34 |
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+10000 not only for what you said but for also typing that on your phone. I've got much more to say on this but I've got too much work to do right now. |
16/10/2012 15:37 |
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cmccourt said: So managers stu k in the middle are screwed. Div 1 and 2 are good . Div 4,5,6 will reap some benefits butnget screwed in the end when they are still complaing about not making enough money. Nigerians, no more day trading here got that. Oh and a store which somehow will add more money into the system then actualky taking out. Well said, cmccourt. But I have yet to understand how any of these policies help lower division players. I'm barely out of division six. I had no problem buying players there, because as I've said elsewhere on these boards, DIVs 6 and 7 don't compete in the 45+ senior market, and <75 forecast juniors are enough to carry new managers through at least DIV 3. But I have concerns that advancing from here will be difficult, because nabbing young, high forecast juniors, the coin of the realm, is becoming more and more difficult due to these poorly-conceived policies. So who are these policies supposed to help? Because the only people I see being helped at this point are players who already have all the liquidity (cash), and all the wealth (players, schools, and stadiums). Who is helped by this? |
16/10/2012 16:05 |
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Only those transactions that are found irregular will be fined. Example a 75 prog mid selling for 50m. It is common sense that mids of that progression dont go beyond 5m. In this case the excess amount will be taken away. |
16/10/2012 16:06 |
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@lucifercave said: Only those transactions that are found irregular will be fined. Example a 75 prog mid selling for 50m. It is common sense that mids of that progression dont go beyond 5m. In this case the excess amount will be taken away. Okay, but how do I know the progression of a player on auction? Truthfully the whole policy seems like I'm suppose to guess what the prices for a junior is suppose to be. Then if I find a good deal I'm punished for not know what the progression is. Really is seems the all the recent rules are to encourage the death of the this game or to maintain only those that are in the top two divisions. |
16/10/2012 16:22 |
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Ok excess transaction fee should be banned.. But why on earth dev's removed the direct buy option for the 14-15yr olds. As we all kno the main business of transfer market comes thru negotiating school players nowadays. So what about managers without golden balls? They cant publish the forecast and so. Atleast bring back the direct buy option or do somethin favourable for the transfer of school players. This is supposed to be an entertaining game. Why making it so ridiculous by forcing some unwanted rules. Edited by winniewlsn 16-10-2012 16:26 |
16/10/2012 16:24 |
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I have no intent on being punished or reprimanded, but I find this whole idea a bit socialist. I live in America, where I can spend my money on whatever and how much ever I want. If I want to overpay for a 75 prog midfielder that will benefit me than that is my decision. If it benefits a friend of mine that I overpaid for that player, oh well. I must have believed the long term pay off of helping a friend in the game was of greater benefit than the 50mil to me at this time. I understand you want to regulate behavior, but that is nothing more than a dictatorial rule. The basis of this game must be free-market and creativity. You do not see any regulations on player pay in the real world football market. If a club wants to over pay for a player that gives them some advantage, they have the ability to do so. Just take the Glaxay overpaying for Beckham- it did more for soccer in America than for his team (I may not have the team correct but you understand my point). There are natural limitations to the number of players a team can have, limited roster space and $ to spend. I would keep these in place. Remember there is an amount of risk when you over pay for a junior. I have lost numerous times believing I could train a junior quick enough to make a profit and lost money instead. Let the players decide what they want to pay and why? Final point. I would overpay for a player to keep him from going into auction and take the chance of that player being stolen at the lost moment by a higher bid. There is a benefit to purchasing direct and worth the extra cash. Edited by Lusoccer18 16-10-2012 16:52 |
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Let us refresh our minds with some Rules Lusoccer18 Transfers with a price that is too high or too low compared to average market price may be adjusted to market price by a fiscal or administrator of the game using a financial fine. You are not allowed to help others to excess. Doing so may result in immediate expulsion from the game for both the person providing excess aid and the person receiving it. This includes, but is not limited to: "RoundTrip" or Cash-Loan transfers (Buy player, sell back soon afterwards as a means to loan cash/players) The Rules clearly state excessive help isnt allowed especially cash loan transfers. |
16/10/2012 16:59 |
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