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I mean, luci you are rght. Spot on I see the light at the tunnel and the thought. My poiny is basically, how can you have that in place, a fine for overshooting the market? Personally i have always tried to resell players in auction for a few million more then i have bought because slowly i know i am contributing to a higher asking (market) price. Some people will signifcantly drop prices to get what they can. Thats market competition thats free market economics. Me vs him not me vs him vs the goverment or more so, me vs the giverment . It works sometime, but not all the time. If this is only a temporary way to relieve the pressures and strains on the SM system so be it, but its not addressed in that manner. These changes seem permamnent which makes me feel that i am at a disadvatage since im competing against something outside my marketplace. 16/10/2012 17:00
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@lucifercave said:
Let us refresh our minds with some Rules Lusoccer18

Transfers with a price that is too high or too low compared to average market price may be adjusted to market price by a fiscal or administrator of the game using a financial fine.

You are not allowed to help others to excess. Doing so may result in immediate expulsion from the game for both the person providing excess aid and the person receiving it. This includes, but is not limited to: "RoundTrip" or Cash-Loan transfers (Buy player, sell back soon afterwards as a means to loan cash/players)

The Rules clearly state excessive help isnt allowed especially cash loan transfers.


Is there somewhere I can read the rationale for this rule?
16/10/2012 17:03
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There you go read the rules here:

http://uk.strikermanager.com/wiki/index.php?title=NORMAS_DE_USO
16/10/2012 17:05
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@lucifercave said:
Only those transactions that are found irregular will be fined.

Example a 75 prog mid selling for 50m. It is common sense that mids of that progression don't go beyond 5m. In this case the excess amount will be taken away.


Are these transfers actually happening though? Are so many people blowing 50 million on a 75 prog player that we need these restrictive rules?

If the developers don't want a free market, fine. Then make it hard line and come up with prices for every single progression level and every single position and make us only able to buy and sell juniors at those prices.

What we have now is a market that's incredibly ambiguous and confusing and still doesn't stop people from making boat loads of money on really good players, but seems to screw over the little guy who can't afford more than 2-3 good schools or can't do search+'s 10 times a week.

And how will fiscals know what prog a player has so they can actually regulate these new rules? I'm not at all saying that fiscals in the game aren't trustworthy, but it seems a little unfair if they're able to see the prog of every player. It'd be hard to resist the temptation if I found a 99 prog player that was on auction by a new team that didn't know the players value, and throw a $10,000 bid down and then flip it for $100M.
16/10/2012 17:05
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illex said:

And how will fiscals know what prog a player has so they can actually regulate these new rules? I'm not at all saying that fiscals in the game aren't trustworthy, but it seems a little unfair if they're able to see the prog of every player. It'd be hard to resist the temptation if I found a 99 prog player that was on auction by a new team that didn't know the players value, and throw a $10,000 bid down and then flip it for $100M.


Fiscals cannot see the prog or fc of a player if its not open. They dont have the tools to do so.
16/10/2012 17:12
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@lucifercave said:
illex said:

And how will fiscals know what prog a player has so they can actually regulate these new rules? I'm not at all saying that fiscals in the game aren't trustworthy, but it seems a little unfair if they're able to see the prog of every player. It'd be hard to resist the temptation if I found a 99 prog player that was on auction by a new team that didn't know the players value, and throw a $10,000 bid down and then flip it for $100M.


Fiscals cannot see the prog or fc of a player if its not open. They dont have the tools to do so.


Ok, that's good to know at least.

So I can't hook a friend up by buying his 75 prog player for excess money, but I can hook a friend up by selling him my 90 prog junior for $100,000 by not making the FC open?

My biggest problem is that the devs are trying to close loopholes, but still leaving another loophole wide open. It's like saying murder with a gun is illegal, but we can't do anything if you murder someone with a knife.
16/10/2012 17:19
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cmccourt said:
I mean, luci you are rght. Spot on I see the light at the tunnel and the thought. My poiny is basically, how can you have that in place, a fine for overshooting the market? Personally i have always tried to resell players in auction for a few million more then i have bought because slowly i know i am contributing to a higher asking (market) price. ..

cmccourt, I don't think you will be fined for selling on auction if it goes the normal process - just start the auction from a reasonable price or even 0.

Edited by @FC Ubuntu 16-10-2012 17:20
16/10/2012 17:19
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I meam this is a plan of restructure, i see that, i just dont agree. You cant stamp out corruption by changing the rules. You have to deal with it as it comes.

Its not easy being the messenger of such news. ( you @s)

But i look at everything plus the new addition and thats were i get dissappointed. Not just this new purchase rule, but all the rules.including this one.

Edited by cmccourt 16-10-2012 17:22
16/10/2012 17:21
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cmccourt said:
... You cant stamp out corruption by changing the rules. You have to deal with it as it comes.

Its not easy being the messenger of such news. ( you @s)
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Lol... How best can you stop corruption?

And you don't have to pity me, I won't be a messenger of what I don't support. Moreover, whatever rules are made affects us all.
16/10/2012 17:29
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@lucifercave said:
There you go read the rules here:

http://uk.strikermanager.com/wiki/index.php?title=NORMAS_DE_USO


Yea, I've read the rules. I was asking for their reasoning. Right now, you moderators introduce these policies as if the need for them and their benefits are patently obvious. As I said above, the benefits of these policies are not at all apparent to me.
16/10/2012 17:32
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