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Agree eam if they can do it it will help a lot.

Someone before mention it will kill game interaction ect and i dont think so.
You can message anyone to chat or go to forum for that but if you want to make transfer agreement only auction.

If you want to get player but you dont want that player to go on auction it can only mean one thing''you want him below market price''.
24/11/2016 14:11
  Mr. Q17 - Div1/Gr1
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brezzette said:

If you want to get player but you dont want that player to go on auction it can only mean one thing''you want him below market price''.


Now that is the best quote I have seen yet,

I can't see it being a problem for them to sort direct purchase, they did it few years back on 14-15 year olds
24/11/2016 14:22
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Hi guys ,

please find below correspondence between me and @Heidtstra for your kind review and attention .
It will definitely be more useful in this hread than staying locked in my inbox.
Nothwithstanding with above we will expect a post to the public thread by @Heidtstra.
No matter how the problems seem complicated in life , they are created by people and they can be resolved by people on condition
that a positive attitude will be on the table .I hope to see the existence of Admin and Devs soon as it seems that drum belongs to a guy
and the drumsticks to another one !!!

Cheers .

Cag



Re: my post about irregular transfer of @Fahorax
From @Heidstra Usuario Pack Manager
To Caglaryu Usuario premium Usuario Pack Manager
Date Today 17:56

Hello Caglaryu,

Thank you for your message. I can absolutely understand your concern and appreciate your attempt to bring light to what is an important issue within Striker Manager. You are absolutely correct in saying that the general users within the game deserve a far greater level of transparency than has been afforded to them thus far (and to be honest, has ever has been offered). Unfortunately, these problems run far deeper than you are aware of.

With respect to @Fahorax, I want to make sure that the general public does not lose sight of the larger issues here. @Fahorax has been a model administrator for nearly two years. He has received three fines in his four year career, none of which have come since taking office. It is very difficult to last that long without transgressions, and though they are not to be excused, when we evaluate new members we do so using patterns of behaviours rather than isolated incidents. Given the great experience and esteem he held in other areas of the game was given much greater priority. I still believe that he is one of the (very few) honorable remaining administrators.

With this particular case, the overall unit is at fault (myself included). When @Fahorax was pursing this particular transfer, he did everything correctly. He approached the fiscal team with the player and requested an acceptable price (not a minimum or maximum price) from multiple administrators. As a group, we evaluated the player and three administrators responded to consensus at 700M. At this point, @Fahorax was bound to that price by our rules and regulations the same as any other manager would be. Obviously, in hindsight, this value was incorrect -- we made a mistake. Moving forward, the case is under evaluation and reaction is pending. Since it was brought to our attention, there has been consistent dialogue and @Fahorax has participated towards a solution. He has offered, without much opposition, to reverse the transfer and/or pay an appropriate fine for the transfer. These are the standard responses to such a case, though it is unprecedented that a singular manager is held at fault for the majority team. For what it is worth, I can only assure you that we are actively looking into the process. Unfortunately, as volunteers with limited resources, these things can take a few days.

What I want to emphasize here, is that there are much bigger issues at play here. Though I can appreciate that this individual case has sparked the conversation, I want to make sure that the dialogue does not start and end here. These greater issues (things like shared @ accounts, reset stamina, removed IP connections and persistent transfers, excessive click notifications etc.) should be the focus of conversation. We very much have a corrupt unit of individuals at the helm, and very little support from the developers to rectify beyond ourselves. I will prepare a detailed response of these issues for the public in your thread -- I am more than happy to bring them to light and face whatever scrutiny the team deserves -- but please be patient, as I do not want to miss anything. The system is broken and it needs to be discussed openly and accurately. I will be in touch.

Thanks again for your help in this process, you are playing an important part.

Cheers,
Heid

PS. In the nature of transparency, feel free to share this message as your see fit, but please do so in its entirety as to maintain context. Thanks!


> Heid ,
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> Me and many users are frustrated about this case .Not only the technical development of the game and Ninja Turtle style of developers putting effort on the game but now witnessing and strongly feeling that @Fahorax after being fined several times continues being a bad example to others is not an encouraging event for the future of the game .
> As named Its a game and we have to enjoy it .Therefore i am looking forward to see that @s are putting effort on that .
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> http://en.strikermanager.com/foros/hilo.php?id=474904&inicio=0
24/11/2016 16:37
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Let's see how this goes this time!

24/11/2016 19:30
  🦊3773™ - Div2/Gr1
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Oyewale said:
Let's see how this goes this time!


Looks like sir oyewale has witness this kind of scenerio number of times.
24/11/2016 20:34
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So the pricing of the player is wrong? (yes)
Possible solutions reverse transfer or fine the manager appropriately it's simple.
And in the first place why will the pricing be wrong ? How do they @s value players to make this mistake?(yeah everyone is bond to make mistake blah blah blah) but you guys are the authority here. Devs? They've abandoned us for quite some long time now so people in power need to check their powers to avoid we the ordinary game players seeing them as corrupt individuals.
Sharing some light on @Eam's explanation, I have to fire a 75/18 DMF yesterday just to make room for a new purchase.the most disheartening thing is that, i was offered 30m for that player earlier this season but i pushed it off saying it is too low. But what happend? I wasted 500k to fire him. Yeah it's frustrating to keep a player you won't be using on the bench. look at me, keeping a 96avg LF on bench for only pl and friendlies games. I should sell, But i will be needing him next season so keeping him is the best option. Why will you keep a player you won't be using on bench? And to make matters worse paying his salary? Best thing to do is get rid of that player by all means. So when the option presented itself, he acted swiftly as he should do.
24/11/2016 20:41
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Rexilian0 said:
Oyewale said:
Let's see how this goes this time!


Looks like sir oyewale has witness this kind of scenerio number of times.



http://en.strikermanager.com/foros/hilo.php?id=459598

Waiting for @heidtra's reply before I make my own review on this.

I think it's now or never, the system is not working...

Edited by Oyewale 25-11-2016 03:57
24/11/2016 21:53
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Oyewale said:
Rexilian0 said:
Oyewale said:
Let's see how this goes this time!


Looks like sir oyewale has witness this kind of scenerio number of times.



http://en.strikermanager.com/foros/hilo.php?id=459598


Take quite a touching tug of war up there. People's view can be different so time but i think as for now this game worth my time, Thanks sir oyewale on the lecture ,love ya jolly ride into fantasy Land.
24/11/2016 22:12
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Hi Guys

As stated earlier for the sake of transparency please find below correspondences between me and @Fahorax .
This is for your kind review.

Cag






From Caglaryu Usuario premium Usuario Pack Manager
To @Fahorax Usuario premium Usuario Pack ManagerConectado
Date Today 09:20

Good morning,

I couldn't really understand the relevance between your resignation and if I want to get it or not.
It is you to decide if you under these conditions want to continue being @ or not.
I directed the question to you basing on the objectives listed in my post.
The case should not be personalized and @should be looking for a healthy environment in the game rebuilding trust on users which apparently become lost looking at the posts in the thread.
Users like me doesn't have any influence on improvements or changes but yes we feel responsible to raise our concern if there are things which is not proper.
As I published my first question to you in the thread I will be publishing these correspondences as well.

Thank you

> Hi Caglaryu,
>
> I see this thread now, thanks for sending me the link, tbh Im going to check the mod forum now because that price was given by 3 fiscals, @champos, @heid and @vgates (not me nor illex of course).
> Then if they think they made a mistake, like anyone should do, i will be fine reverting the player
> anyway and what is for the @, this i didnt value the player so im not sure why i should be targeted more than the others but yea if you want it i have no issue giving it to you, it only brings you troubles and no advantages like anyone seems to think (yea free pack but i always paid for mine before)

Edited by Caglaryu 25-11-2016 07:42
25/11/2016 07:42
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I recieved a email back from developers, they are not willing to remove transfer agreements, they don't seem willing to do anything, I am done with them. 25/11/2016 08:59
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