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1. What people are forgetting is that the so called rich teams that have all the good juniors will have to pay all the more to keep those good juniors. So i know people are thinking that no resign means div 1 guys can choose and pick any junior they want.And that is right too.But after that they will have to pay them good money too to protect. 2. let us think.they no longer will be able to keep 90+ prog or/and 80+ average junior for free as they can now.Hence they will limit the junior squad to not completely fill it but have a limited good quality squad.So what will that mean for rest of us?We will have more good quality juniors available for us cheaper which would have been otherwise taken by rich managers for their junior squad but now cant for want of limited profits. I see most of the arguments beeing made by the view that rich teams have unlimited resources to buy.But we forget that they too have weakly expense.So thats why the arguments are not fully correct.In short This update will level the playing field.Rich teams will have all the best juniors(as they currently have)but will also have to pay more for them(as they currently dont)So weekly expenses will improve for all but their's will improve more. Edited by super striker king 23-03-2015 10:48 |
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What you also forget to add is, it will be very hard for a divi 5 manager to keep a +70avg +80prog player. What salary is going to use to protect such player if he owns three or more? | 23/03/2015 11:22 |
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You can always keep enough to get a profit.  |
23/03/2015 13:18 |
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No need to keep whinning and burst about this update. If I can recal the dev never go back on any update they started or promised (someone should correct me if am wrong). What managers do is try and find loop holes (surely they exist) and take it to their advantage. Btw I like the update. I might get a chance to hostile one (or a few) of those 95+prog jnrs (maybe a star player  ) that those div1 and div2 are hoarding.Cheers peepz. I like SM A LOT (in capital letters). |
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elfolksy said: No need to keep whinning and burst about this update. If I can recal the dev never go back on any update they started or promised (someone should correct me if am wrong). What managers do is try and find loop holes (surely they exist) and take it to their advantage. Btw I like the update. I might get a chance to hostile one (or a few) of those 95+prog jnrs (maybe a star player ) that those div1 and div2 are hoarding.Cheers peepz. I like SM A LOT (in capital letters). Actually you're are wrong about the devs. They do correct those stupid strikers they introduced once that hit the target once with 50 shots. And recently the scrap off the ridiculous 2yrs contract and make it 4. |
23/03/2015 22:30 |
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Whatamidoinghere said: Actually you're are wrong about the devs. They do correct those stupid strikers they introduced once that hit the target once with 50 shots. And recently the scrap off the ridiculous 2yrs contract and make it 4. Once with 50 shots, exageration pal. How much shots total do you get in a game. Btw striker still miss bunch of goals with one on one situations. They reduced 7, 6 and 5yrs and cap it @ 4yr contract max to be able to offer a player. You can still offer your player 2yrs contract. So I do not know what you are talking about. |
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elfolksy said: Whatamidoinghere said: Actually you're are wrong about the devs. They do correct those stupid strikers they introduced once that hit the target once with 50 shots. And recently the scrap off the ridiculous 2yrs contract and make it 4. Once with 50 shots, exageration pal. How much shots total do you get in a game. Btw striker still miss bunch of goals with one on one situations. They reduced 7, 6 and 5yrs and cap it @ 4yr contract max to be able to offer a player. You can still offer your player 2yrs contract. So I do not know what you are talking about. It was reduced to only two years before. But the @s saved our damn a**. And strikers were worse than this before. But Rebsiot, Grantis, ubuntu and some managers including half of sm manage to get the devs tweak them to a bit of normality. I remembered most of us named our team and stadia STUPID STRIKERS! EDIT: I forget to include Lucifercave. That guy will get my a** detained if he did not see his name here. Edited by Whatamidoinghere 23-03-2015 22:51 |
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There was no time that the max years of contract you can offer a player was place @ 2yrs. Currently, my strikers miss chunks of attempts on goals now more than ever. So they either make an atom weight of change to it or it is as it was still. |
23/03/2015 22:56 |
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@illex said: DirkDiggler said: I think this is stupid. The only reason this is being implemented is because you want to take money (from who) out of the game. But all you are really doing is making it easy for managers in Higher Divisions + GB buyers to cherry pick high progression player no matter the salary. I dont think we will see Div 5-6 managers with youth salaries over 500k because they do not have the income to support it. Now my suggestion is to do the exact same as you have done with very young 14-15 yr old players & hostile auctions. The ability to resign 14-15 yrs old but not anyone else older. Because young players dont warrant those high contracts but more developed high progression talents do. We had this discussion before I believe, but it really doesn't hurt lower div players the way you think it does. If I'm in Div 5 (or even 4) and I've been around for just 2-3 seasons, I probably shouldn't be buying 90+ prog players to train as my resources are better spent elsewhere, and if I've got a 90+ prog player from a school, I should probably sell it, as the money made from it is probably better for me short term than the player training is long term. Yes it is sort of bad to make it harder for lower division players to hold on to good juniors, but there is also a case to be made that lower div players need to ramp up into being able to afford premium players. It's not even that expensive though! Look at this: http://en.strikermanager.com/jugador.php?id_jugador=20567604 http://en.strikermanager.com/jugador.php?id_jugador=20567610 I just promoted these random guys from schools, and they show the good an bad end of the spectrum of fidelity. The Croatian guy is going to cost you all of 2 million per season for the next 4 seasons, and will never get hostiled if he's mid range prog (roughly under 90 prog) because you can currently get about an 85 average LF for his clause. The other guy isn't so good with fidelity and would run you about 6 million per season, but again, you can get an 85+ average LM for that price so his clause doesn't need to be that high. Generally speaking you can get 85-90 prog 14/15 year olds for about 20-30m each. Their clauses don't need to be above 100m, for the first 2-3 seasons. If they get hostiled from 0-75 average, you've probably made more than market value off of the players. That means for each season you're probably paying no more than 1-3 million per player to keep them, which is pretty manageable for a smaller manager. If you're vigilant with resigning players multiple times over the course of the season keeping them in line with the market and with their training, the price goes even lower. Hahaha Yes we have spoke about this before. You are probably right about if you just came in the game you shouldnt be training 90 prog players but you act like everyone in Div 4 & 5 just started last season. Half of these managers are unaware that they have great talent & are unable to capitalize on their potential either monetarily or development wise. There are PLENTY of experienced managers in lower Div already losing good/great talent to more financial potent teams (+ GB users) so yes it skews it a bit more towards HIgher Div teams. I dont really understand what you mean buy ramp it up? Ramp it up how? From reading some of these forum stuff, from the looks of it it seems like its hard to get new managers to join let alone get them to stick with this game for an extended period of time. So making it more difficult for lower divisions to COMPETE by cutting them off from the knees doesnt make ANY sense. Yes generally speaking 85-90 avg 14 yr old go from 25M to 55M each. YES! Now when it comes to clauses 90+avg progression players need higher than 100M bc the (R) defends not only GB users but high paying high div teams from simply plucking these players for cents off the dollar/euro/pound. They are not only protecting the players talent but what he will develop to. Example 1: a Div 4 team with a 92 progression player has a 100M clause (he is aware of the players potential), if a manager is able to identify this talent he can decide whether or not to hostile him. Now how many fit into this category? (in order of monetary power) DIv 1, 2, 3 & maybe even 4. Div 1-3 can buy this player on a whim if they want to. Now you are telling me that a player 0-75 shouldnt be higher than the 100M clause. You act as if this game isnt predicated on FC future talents. Example 2: I have a pair of DF's 14 & 15 yrs of age. The 14 yr old is 82 prog 15 yr old is 90. just bc they reach 70 % avg at different times (16-17 yrs old) doesnt mean they cost the same. You would always pay more for a 90 prog. The market value is not the same & you've probably benefited from the fact that paying a 3M clause then selling him for 300M is always possible when dealing with certain positions. That is a FACT! Your estimation of player salaries is undervalued. That probably only exist with managers that are fiscally responsible. That is what i spent when i was in Div 4&5 when i started. Not now. I dont think my idea is a terrible one. (R) for 14 & 15 yr olds for protection until they are somewhat developed seems more than fair. After 16 a complete blood bath!!!!!! MUUUUAAAHHHH HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! |
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@vgates said: I'm in Div 3 and in what I think is probably the zone of the curve that will get hit the worst. I don't particularly like this update because if it is intended to remove money from the game, I don't think it does that quickly enough. It may make the market more active but I'm not so sure about that either. If it has a secondary effect of driving prices down, well that helps younger teams because it makes players more accessible - but that doesn't remove money from the game. Just the opposite, it keeps teams with billions keeping their more money. If the intent is to remove money from the game, there are better avenues to do that. Raise the tax rate on sales. Make it 50% for players over $500m. Rather than removing deposits entirely, leave it for lower teams or reduce based on the total amount of money the manager has. If you have $1b or more, 0% on deposits. Better yet, at beginning of each season, asses a tax on total assets based on a sliding scale. That will cause some market uptick. @vgates: + * whatever a 96/18 GK is worth!!! hahaha Whatamidoinghere: + KEL123: + Boomboomboom: + @illex: Im in Div 3 & i can control my expenses Brezette: It shouldnt be easy to keep weeklies low. You have better players and make more money. Simple! But the way you explain your finances makes me question how you do business. Also what low Div X's has 5 players 93+ prog? If he was able to acquire these players he must have more than enough money. I dont know of any experienced managers that train (juniors) less than 5 players. @vgatesThis isnt the first time someone has brought this up. I BROUGHT THIS UP 3 SEASONS AGO!!! A progressive tax starting from high to lower divisions will definitely take money out of the game + it will make Higher div managers really think about spending on these high prog juniors. Increasing sales tax like you explained will def help. And deposit interest rates ranging from 0 to 5% ( Div 1 to 5) |
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