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brezzette said: liverpool6792 said: brezzette said: You can keep your 90/16 GK with ~400k salary and with other subs GKs ~600k is enough so 1M total. 600k wouldn't of been enough for the subs, I can tell you that right now. Making random guesses isn't going to make anyone change their mind. The point still stands, that it affects smaller teams alot more, makes things harder for everyone and is completely unnecessary. Edited by liverpool6792 21-03-2015 16:54 Its not random guess,see my GK 98prog99FC sold only for 120M http://en.strikermanager.com/jugador.php?id_jugador=18697754 This GK can be protected with 400k salary 1B clause,and for subs you need ~100k per player if they are ~90prog. Even if you need x2 salary its ok,see my juniors and 2 temp.promoted and tell me how much should i put salary on them. And i still think this is good update. What you don't seem to understand is that I didn't train 6 players, I trained more and they all improved. Most people train about 20. Gk's were just what I used to train so I used them as an example. I didn't promote that GK until 96/19, I had a few more around 90, and alot of low to high 80s. Also, I said I was offered 1b at 90, then 2.5b at 96, so giving him a 1b clause will have had him hostiled from me when I rejected every single offer. (I received about 40 in total). Feel free to calculate how much extra I would have to pay for my junior team so they never get hostiled. Bare in mind my 2 best CDF's are 95 and 92 prog, I can safely say it will not be 1m. (I think I already lose a bit of money each week as it is) Ps: I'm not trying to have a go at you btw, just think it's another very poor update. Would rather they actually tried getting more people to play the game, not piss the current members off. |
21/03/2015 20:50 |
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Funny how most of the posts supporting this come from managers in Division 1... This is a terrible decision with, at best, questionable motives. I won't go so far as to say this is it for me, but I will destroy all of my schools, which I never would have built in the first place if I knew this was possible. This will render junior teams irrelevant except for the richest of teams. |
21/03/2015 21:13 |
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I am not writing here to change someones mind,you can have a go at me i have no problem with that. I like this update and you dont like it. Every junior can be signed with 100k and have release clause of ~220M, thats 1.3M for 1 season in salary for ~220M player which is nothing...same with higher salaries. You must pay/protect what you train. And this will make dead market alive and interesting. |
21/03/2015 21:14 |
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another one from div6 bought on auction for 1m and protected from a release clause looking at his salary i can say he is a real future star  http://en.strikermanager.com/inicio.php?accion=/jugador.php%3Fid_jugador%3D19623186 |
21/03/2015 21:15 |
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brezzette said: I am not writing here to change someones mind,you can have a go at me i have no problem with that. I like this update and you dont like it. Every junior can be signed with 100k and have release clause of ~220M, thats 1.3M for 1 season in salary for ~220M player which is nothing...same with higher salaries. You must pay/protect what you train. And this will make dead market alive and interesting. No one will give a player a clause of 220m unless that's the most he will ever be worth. Because people know how good someone can become so they'll just buy him for 220m, train him and sell him for triple that. My one CDF I paid 400m for in juniors, I'm not gonna give him a 220m clause am I? No, i'll give him a ridiculous clause so he never gets hostiled because he'll be worth like 1B in 5 seasons, so I have to give players a clause fitting of how good they'll become and depending on how high their prog is, as will everyone else, which is why it's unfair for every lower team. Edited by liverpool6792 21-03-2015 23:02 |
21/03/2015 22:58 |
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liverpool6792 said: brezzette said: Every junior can be signed with 100k and have release clause of ~220M, thats 1.3M for 1 season in salary for ~220M player which is nothing...SAME WITH HIGHER SALARIES !!! No one will give a player a clause of 220m unless that's the most he will ever be worth. Because people know how good someone can become so they'll just buy him for 220m, train him and sell him for triple that. My one CDF I paid 400m for in juniors, I'm not gonna give him a 220m clause am I? No, i'll give him a ridiculous clause so he never gets hostiled because he'll be worth like 1B in 5 seasons, so I have to give players a clause fitting of how good they'll become and depending on how high their prog is, as will everyone else, which is why it's unfair for every lower team. Edited by liverpool6792 21-03-2015 23:02 I didnt know that we should put 1B clause on player that worth 1B. That was example with 100k,you dont get me or you dont wanna get me. ''same with higher salaries'' means that you need to pay 0.5% per season of your player worth. So if your CDF is worth 1B you will put 400k salary for 1B clause (400k x 13 weeks = 5.2M per season) and that is nothing. And again this is good update for me and it will make SM market alive. I am done with this thread |
22/03/2015 00:08 |
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As someone from the lowest league (although next season that changes) I totally agree with this change. I don't think anyone should ever have been able to lock away their Junior players, and pay minimum wages, while they turn them into 90+ rated players! If this cuts down on farming players; excellent. There are already too many high rated players in this game (not just teams of them, but leagues of them!). If this takes money away from rich teams; excellent. The game's already incredibly easy to make money in, and I'm guessing it's even easier once you've been playing for a long time and have reached the higher leagues. Did I mention I love this change? I hope it makes the game harder and more challenging. And if this does reduce the ridiculous amounts of schools and farmed players, I think that will improve the game no end. |
22/03/2015 00:45 |
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liverpool6792 said: brezzette said: liverpool6792 said: brezzette said: You can keep your 90/16 GK with ~400k salary and with other subs GKs ~600k is enough so 1M total. 600k wouldn't of been enough for the subs, I can tell you that right now. Making random guesses isn't going to make anyone change their mind. The point still stands, that it affects smaller teams alot more, makes things harder for everyone and is completely unnecessary. Edited by liverpool6792 21-03-2015 16:54 Its not random guess,see my GK 98prog99FC sold only for 120M http://en.strikermanager.com/jugador.php?id_jugador=18697754 This GK can be protected with 400k salary 1B clause,and for subs you need ~100k per player if they are ~90prog. Even if you need x2 salary its ok,see my juniors and 2 temp.promoted and tell me how much should i put salary on them. And i still think this is good update. What you don't seem to understand is that I didn't train 6 players, I trained more and they all improved. Most people train about 20. Gk's were just what I used to train so I used them as an example. I didn't promote that GK until 96/19, I had a few more around 90, and alot of low to high 80s. Also, I said I was offered 1b at 90, then 2.5b at 96, so giving him a 1b clause will have had him hostiled from me when I rejected every single offer. (I received about 40 in total). Feel free to calculate how much extra I would have to pay for my junior team so they never get hostiled. Bare in mind my 2 best CDF's are 95 and 92 prog, I can safely say it will not be 1m. (I think I already lose a bit of money each week as it is) Ps: I'm not trying to have a go at you btw, just think it's another very poor update. Would rather they actually tried getting more people to play the game, not piss the current members off. The 96 av GK in question is worth roughly 1.75 right now based on my quick estimate, that is 1,725,000,000 in profit. You're telling me you wouldn't have kept the opportunity to hold on to the guy if you had to pay a rough 20m per season (this is based on the fact that a player you bought for 24 million doesn't need a clause above 100m until he hits about 70 average, and after that you can scale his salary easily if you check in on him every 2-3 weeks or so.) So if you paid 20m for 5 seasons, the profit goes down to 1,625,000,000, which is still a lot of profit. If you can afford to pay 500m for a junior, I think you should absolutely have to pay a higher salary for him than someones 70 prog RB, right now that's not really the case. It takes money out of the game which has been sorely needed since the game opened, and it helps new managers, and honestly I think it makes the game a little more interesting now that juniors are fair game. |
22/03/2015 01:18 |
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@illex said: liverpool6792 said: brezzette said: liverpool6792 said: brezzette said: You can keep your 90/16 GK with ~400k salary and with other subs GKs ~600k is enough so 1M total. 600k wouldn't of been enough for the subs, I can tell you that right now. Making random guesses isn't going to make anyone change their mind. The point still stands, that it affects smaller teams alot more, makes things harder for everyone and is completely unnecessary. Edited by liverpool6792 21-03-2015 16:54 Its not random guess,see my GK 98prog99FC sold only for 120M http://en.strikermanager.com/jugador.php?id_jugador=18697754 This GK can be protected with 400k salary 1B clause,and for subs you need ~100k per player if they are ~90prog. Even if you need x2 salary its ok,see my juniors and 2 temp.promoted and tell me how much should i put salary on them. And i still think this is good update. What you don't seem to understand is that I didn't train 6 players, I trained more and they all improved. Most people train about 20. Gk's were just what I used to train so I used them as an example. I didn't promote that GK until 96/19, I had a few more around 90, and alot of low to high 80s. Also, I said I was offered 1b at 90, then 2.5b at 96, so giving him a 1b clause will have had him hostiled from me when I rejected every single offer. (I received about 40 in total). Feel free to calculate how much extra I would have to pay for my junior team so they never get hostiled. Bare in mind my 2 best CDF's are 95 and 92 prog, I can safely say it will not be 1m. (I think I already lose a bit of money each week as it is) Ps: I'm not trying to have a go at you btw, just think it's another very poor update. Would rather they actually tried getting more people to play the game, not piss the current members off. The 96 av GK in question is worth roughly 1.75 right now based on my quick estimate, that is 1,725,000,000 in profit. You're telling me you wouldn't have kept the opportunity to hold on to the guy if you had to pay a rough 20m per season (this is based on the fact that a player you bought for 24 million doesn't need a clause above 100m until he hits about 70 average, and after that you can scale his salary easily if you check in on him every 2-3 weeks or so.) So if you paid 20m for 5 seasons, the profit goes down to 1,625,000,000, which is still a lot of profit. If you can afford to pay 500m for a junior, I think you should absolutely have to pay a higher salary for him than someones 70 prog RB, right now that's not really the case. It takes money out of the game which has been sorely needed since the game opened, and it helps new managers, and honestly I think it makes the game a little more interesting now that juniors are fair game. I get why you think it's a good idea, and in the long term, may do some good (If the game even lasts that long), but the way I see it is, the smaller teams are going to be screwed by this and the bigger teams will just take advantage. Like someone has already said, it looks like it's mainly the top managers that think this is a good idea. What new managers are we talking about? It seems like we lose more than we gain and this game is worse than it's ever been, I barely stay online for more than 10 minutes right now because there is no one to talk to, other than on hostile night for about 40 minutes. OT: Does this game advertise anywhere? And if so, where? |
22/03/2015 03:51 |
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I'm in Div 3 and in what I think is probably the zone of the curve that will get hit the worst. I don't particularly like this update because if it is intended to remove money from the game, I don't think it does that quickly enough. It may make the market more active but I'm not so sure about that either. If it has a secondary effect of driving prices down, well that helps younger teams because it makes players more accessible - but that doesn't remove money from the game. Just the opposite, it keeps teams with billions keeping their more money. If the intent is to remove money from the game, there are better avenues to do that. Raise the tax rate on sales. Make it 50% for players over $500m. Rather than removing deposits entirely, leave it for lower teams or reduce based on the total amount of money the manager has. If you have $1b or more, 0% on deposits. Better yet, at beginning of each season, asses a tax on total assets based on a sliding scale. That will cause some market uptick. |
23/03/2015 03:09 |
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