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First rule of web games. Don't make money your players have already spent mean nothing. This new server has done exactly that. You may think that your GB transfer from current game to the new server is enough. That is incorrect. You've negated or next to not only the money put in, but the time and effort. You should have developed the current server with these new features. Not reset everyone and have them start from ground zero. Edited by Talus 23-10-2013 21:54 |
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AGREE COMPLETELY. Although this server will continue, it really feels like two years wasted on my part. I was excited for the new SM until I found out that I had to start with a completely new team. +100000000000000000000000000000000000 Edited by Aruen 23-10-2013 20:53 |
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I would absolutely agree with that. 2 years Ive spent building a team which has cost me over £200 in the process...yet as I understand it my team will continue in the old veraion of SM but everyone will be reset on the new version. So I wont spend any more money on GB's building my exisiting team and to be frank...I wont bother with the new version even if it is better..because now I feel ripped off. I'd be happy for my existing team to transfer into the new version. Whats wrong with that? Even if I'll never get to Div 1 I dont care! I'd never of got there anyway because the lads with the money only buy the elite players and lend them to their mates anyway... which will only continue in the new version. It's ill thought through and only designed to attract new players not existing ones which is the reason for the clamour around Facebook likes and Twitter followers. Disappointing. |
23/10/2013 21:00 |
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Something else to add....I was happy to pay my money out because I thought it supported and maintained the ongoing development of the game. I'm seriously thinking of quitting it now. its a very sad day for me. | 23/10/2013 21:05 |
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StrikerGent said: I thought it supported and maintained the ongoing development of the game. I suspect this game was abandoned 2 years ago already. I play since December 2011 and never saw any bug fixed. There were updates which introduced useless things like Store and Catering as well as new bugs. Nothing good I can remember. |
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omg its a reset then i take it? and from what u say sounds likethey keeping these severs going till they die on their own? correct? |
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Talus said: First rule of web games. Don't make money your players have already spent mean nothing. This new server has done exactly that. You may think that your GB transfer from current game to the new server is enough. That is incorrect. You've negated or next to not only the money put in, but the time and effort. You should have developed the current server with these new features. Not reset everyone and have them start from ground zero. Edited by Talus 23-10-2013 21:54 first of all, nothing is negated, at all. This server will continue. You are thinking about this completely illogically. The have developed a NEW game...the same as other games in their portfolio, i.e. Train Crisis, Mayan Prophecy, etc. They have continued to update this game, and are actually beta testing a new sim in the es server starting now. with that in mind, after the new sim is beta tested, it will then be implemented in the existing server. that is a huge update. This server will still be going. to say they "should have developed the current server with these new features" shows your lack of knowledge about development processes. think about any software program, for example, your OS. there are versions that come out that are NOT upgradable, b/c they have started from a new base, usually from optimizations, new technologies, etc. There might even be features built in that could not be ported over. U-Play is a business, first and foremost. Developing new games is a sound business decision that every business uses. if you think WoW was just updates from the first version to the current version, you are kidding yourself. They have proven that new games still draw existing users as well as new users. the fact that they are leaving the current server operational for existing users shows a huge show of support from U-PLay to their fan base, as these servers require $ to support. There is monthly bandwidth, hosting, server space, and admin time involved. You have to be able to see all sides before making an arguement. While it may not be in YOUR best interest that a new game has been developed, i promise you it's in the best interest of the shareholders. |
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While I agree with many of your points (especially everything you say about U-Play being a business & all that goes with that), I am not sure what you're getting at with the WoW reference. The current WoW is vastly different from the vanilla original release in countless ways -- not least of which they have completely redesigned & rebalanced the character classes and skills numerous times, while also modifying the graphics & the rendering capabilities of their engine significantly over time. They've added new classes, new races, and tons of other new content at a very regular cadence since the initial release. But they never reset everyone's accounts after their first commercial launch, even though the game had changed so significantly, so many times. Your OS analogy seems to be dead on, though, as from the looks of it they are building the new SM from an entirely new base -- and with a smartphone/tablet friendly mobile client (finally). Nothing trivial about any of that. I also agree that it's not as easy as just developing new features in the existing game code and I believe it would actually be pretty difficult for them to bring along everyone's teams in their current state(s) to what appears to be a vastly different version of the current game. That being said, I share Talus' annoyance that the time & money I've put into SM appear to be somewhat pointless now. At the very least, the community will split -- possibly significantly -- when the new version is out. That's not really ideal for either version and it pretty much kills any incentive I have to keep building my team for future seasons in the current SM. I'm the sort of player who will absolutely try the new version, because I like new, shiny things & I have enjoyed this game so far, during my year in the community so I want to keep playing. But I want to play in a game where most of the other players are -- sticking around a legacy game (as great as it is they plan to keep running it) as the community thins and dies is not a very compelling thought. It's not like the game needs MORE System Bot teams, after all. Guess I'll just focus on the current season & hope for the best in the new game. See some/most of you on the other side... |
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Bitterfish said: While I agree with many of your points (especially everything you say about U-Play being a business & all that goes with that), I am not sure what you're getting at with the WoW reference. The current WoW is vastly different from the vanilla original release in countless ways -- not least of which they have completely redesigned & rebalanced the character classes and skills numerous times, while also modifying the graphics & the rendering capabilities of their engine significantly over time. They've added new classes, new races, and tons of other new content at a very regular cadence since the initial release. But they never reset everyone's accounts after their first commercial launch, even though the game had changed so significantly, so many times. Your OS analogy seems to be dead on, though, as from the looks of it they are building the new SM from an entirely new base -- and with a smartphone/tablet friendly mobile client (finally). Nothing trivial about any of that. I also agree that it's not as easy as just developing new features in the existing game code and I believe it would actually be pretty difficult for them to bring along everyone's teams in their current state(s) to what appears to be a vastly different version of the current game. That being said, I share Talus' annoyance that the time & money I've put into SM appear to be somewhat pointless now. At the very least, the community will split -- possibly significantly -- when the new version is out. That's not really ideal for either version and it pretty much kills any incentive I have to keep building my team for future seasons in the current SM. I'm the sort of player who will absolutely try the new version, because I like new, shiny things & I have enjoyed this game so far, during my year in the community so I want to keep playing. But I want to play in a game where most of the other players are -- sticking around a legacy game (as great as it is they plan to keep running it) as the community thins and dies is not a very compelling thought. It's not like the game needs MORE System Bot teams, after all. Guess I'll just focus on the current season & hope for the best in the new game. See some/most of you on the other side... Well, I'll be here too. Looks like it's you, me, and a bunch of system bots! |
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You can speculate all you want but despite what we've been told, we have no way of knowing what the future will bring for either game. I can't see the point in getting angry or upset about anything at this stage, I'm just excited for a new management game which I hope will bring me as much joy as this one has  |
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