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I think some of the junior stars being auctioned should be specifically reserved for lower division teams. The current auctions are exciting, but of course when we division 6 managers look at the auctions, it quickly becomes obvious we will have no chance to sign any one of those players because our divisions simply don't have the cash flow to support high-price buys.

My suggestion is that, in a 15-player sale like the current super star auctions,

• 20% of the stars (3 players) should only be available to Div 6/7 clubs. That means only Div 6/7 should be allowed to bid on those 3 players.

• 40-50% of the stars (6-8 players) should be available for bidding by only Div 5/6/7.

• 2/3ds, 66% of super stars (10 players) should be reserved for Div 3/4/5/6/7 clubs.

• The remaining 5 players should be available for all clubs to bid on.

The precise allocation of super stars can be adjusted based on general views of all striker managers and the decisions of mods and administrators. But the basic outline and arrangement are sound, and should be considered, pursued, and implemented.

This arrangement would pose no disadvantage to upper division clubs, because they have much higher cash flow than lower divisions, and so can out-compete our clubs in the all-division buys. It would also not handicap them by limiting them to 5 super star players, because they already have resources (lots of cash, high cash flow stadiums, top-rated schools) that allow them to maintain uniformly high-rating squads.

If the point of the super star sale is to improve already-great teams in the top divisions, then no change is needed. But in that case, why even have surprise super star sales? We already know who's going to win them, and we already know that the buyers have already-great teams in high divisions. But if the point is an exciting sale that allows a few teams to significantly beef up their squads with a quick buy, and throw a few curve balls and surprises into the game, then I think the sales need to be structured so that there's a reasonable chance they can achieve those outcomes. And that can't happen if big money Div 1/2/3 managers can compete with our small-assets Div 6/7 clubs.

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20/08/2012 15:47
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Anonymous01 said:
I think some of the junior stars being auctioned should be specifically reserved for lower division teams. The current auctions are exciting, but of course when we division 6 managers look at the auctions, it quickly becomes obvious we will have no chance to sign any one of those players because our divisions simply don't have the cash flow to support high-price buys.

My suggestion is that, in a 15-player sale like the current super star auctions,

• 20% of the stars (3 players) should only be available to Div 6/7 clubs. That means only Div 6/7 should be allowed to bid on those 3 players.

• 40-50% of the stars (6-8 players) should be available for bidding by only Div 5/6/7.

• 2/3ds, 66% of super stars (10 players) should be reserved for Div 3/4/5/6/7 clubs.

• The remaining 5 players should be available for all clubs to bid on.

The precise allocation of super stars can be adjusted based on general views of all striker managers and the decisions of mods and administrators. But the basic outline and arrangement are sound, and should be considered, pursued, and implemented.

This arrangement would pose no disadvantage to upper division clubs, because they have much higher cash flow than lower divisions, and so can out-compete our clubs in the all-division buys. It would also not handicap them by limiting them to 5 super star players, because they already have resources (lots of cash, high cash flow stadiums, top-rated schools) that allow them to maintain uniformly high-rating squads.

If the point of the super star sale is to improve already-great teams in the top divisions, then no change is needed. But in that case, why even have surprise super star sales? We already know who's going to win them, and we already know that the buyers have already-great teams in high divisions. But if the point is an exciting sale that allows a few teams to significantly beef up their squads with a quick buy, and throw a few curve balls and surprises into the game, then I think the sales need to be structured so that there's a reasonable chance they can achieve those outcomes. And that can't happen if big money Div 1/2/3 managers can compete with our small-assets Div 6/7 clubs.

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i believe this not the first time someone is suggesting dis. I think admin and da developers look into dis cos there is sense in dis very suggestion
20/08/2012 16:34
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I will have to agree with this. I was quite excited to see the message, jumped into the general chat to ask what people think the lowest price would be for any of the super star juniors. What I heard made me despondent, 300+ mil. Just the chance to win would've been sufficient for me but hey that's the way it works here in SM as it does in the real world. A friend suggested that perhaps it would be cool if every now and again a star player just drops into your schools that have been built, again a great idea but top div managers have all the schools as well. So I give your idea my support.

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20/08/2012 17:17
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Haha -1 to this, sounds absurd to me. Not realistic. 20/08/2012 17:19
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Sir A. PlentyGoals said:
I will have to agree with this. I was quite excited to see the message, jumped into the general chat to ask what people think the lowest price would be for any of the super star juniors. What I heard made me despondent, 300+ mil. Just the chance to win would've been sufficient for me but hey that's the way it works here in SM as it does in the real world. A friend suggested that perhaps it would be cool if every now and again a star player just drops into your schools that have been built, again a great idea but top div managers have all the schools as well. So I give your idea my support.

+1

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20/08/2012 18:25
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-1. You want awesome thing, you have to spend too much. 99progression is not a thing that you find anywhere easily. I would better see a junior with a div 1 guy rather than rotting in a bot div6/7 team for 1 whole season and then later to be hostiled by a lucky manager.

Moreover these kind of star players are necessary to control inflation. As far as I can see, these 15 juniors will take out at least 5B from the top teams as the auctions have started. This money is dumped and will never come back in the game. If you want to see a controlled inflation, this type of thing is NECESSARY.

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@bluegene said:
-1. You want awesome thing, you have to spend too much. 99progression is not a thing that you find anywhere easily. I would better see a junior with a div 1 guy rather than rotting in a bot div6/7 team for 1 whole season and then later to be hostiled by a lucky manager.

Moreover these kind of star players are necessary to control inflation. As far as I can see, these 15 juniors will take out at least 5B from the top teams as the auctions have started. This money is dumped and will never come back in the game. If you want to see a controlled inflation, this type of thing is NECESSARY.

Edited by @bluegene 20-08-2012 18:46


I think the inflation problem is overstated, but that's a different discussion. As far as super star players, it's the game administrators and designers who want an awesome thing, but the way they've implemented it ensures that essentially nothing awesome will come out of it. Divs 1/2 and sometimes 3/4 are full of 90+ forecast players. What's the great thing about giving already high-ratings teams . . . more high-ratings players? Why the big news and fanfare and mass PM for that? Do we need a special announcement that Banana Sport and his/her competitors are going to have even more top-rated players? Or was the point of the mass PM to rub lower Div managers' noses in it?

Like I said in my opening post, if the point is to shake-up the game, add something exciting and unpredictable to it, then a change is needed. If the point is to give teams full of 90+ players more 90+ players, then mission accomplished. But then why have the sale at all?

EDIT: I forgot to address your point about super stars ending up with bots. I think this problem is not a huge probability. Lower division managers who would buy a great player are less likely to abruptly abandon their team because, in order to win a super star auction, you have to stay on it regularly, and sign in at the very least once a day, and probably more as the auction nears closing. That's unless they make a $500m+ max payment, which is essentially an impossibility, since basically only upper division teams have that kind of cash. Also, in the relatively few instances where this might happen, so what if they're hostiled? So what if they're auctioned by the bot teams later? That's how the game is played. If a manager does the work to spot a good buy, they deserve whatever they find. Also, under my suggestion, Div 5/6/7 would have very few super stars reserved to them, especially 6/7. So the few managers winning those auctions are likely to be very active managers.

Finally, I think any concern about orphaned super stars is far outweighed by the benefits of a super star sale that is actually more or less available to all divisions.


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20/08/2012 23:09
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@Dnsvnsk said:
Haha -1 to this, sounds absurd to me. Not realistic.


Please elaborate.
20/08/2012 23:27
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Double post.

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