brezzette said:
you said that its easy with old sim to get players to 80+ and now you telling me that 80+ teams are not far more superior ?

Heidstra said:
Hey forums,

I'm having difficulty accepting the new training style as in improvement on the last one. Personally, I love the idea of training individual attributes as it's more realistic and gives you much more control over your team and the style you play. That being said, I'm finding the execution of these intentions to be nearly impossible to do. I'm lucky to get any stats to go up over 0.150 in any given training. This means 6-7 trainings to get that skill to go up even a point. That's 3-4 weeks of training, and these are young, 70%+ progression players with a 90%+ coach I'm talking about. At this rate training has become obsolete, especially for the better players. There's no way I'll be able to catch up to the superior players in my league at this pace. Buying better players seems to be the only way to catch them. I understand it's the same for everyone, but a lot of us have spent time building good, young teams aimed for a future of training. Now, with these slightly lower averaged players (and slightly lower in individual attributes) we have no chance of catching up. And forget about the juniors we're waiting to promote -as average goes up even slower now, the promotion averages take ages to reach.

I propose we adapt the current format we have now, to restore some actual meaning to training. Why not have averages increase at the same rate they did in the old simulator, but instead of allocating it evenly across the stats relevant to each position, have them distributed to the categories identified by the training chosen. For example, if you choose running and the average were to go up 0.500 overall, instead of every category going up about the same the difference would be made up by the speed and strength categories primarily.

Just a thought...what do you all think?

solirocket said:


This is my last post regarding this issue:

1-Yes, i said with old sim it easy to get 80+ players. Now 80+ teams are not superior. Better tactics/formation is superior.

2-The cost of an 80+ will increase by A LOT now.

3-The cost of these players will also increase...by A LOT.

4-VIP seats. I will have some before the end of the season. I do not really need them in div 5, neither does any team in div 5 need them. The opportunity cost is too high to have them for now. So new teams wont need VIP until 2 seasons into the game, assuming they are good players and get promotion every season. (you will see less teams going up by 2 divisions per season, since bots will be less, and will always be moving down the divisions)

Whether you increase or decrease training, the amount of money in the game does not change. How is everyone trying to convince me that they will be poor? WHERE WILL ALL THE MONEY GO?!?!?!?!

What will happen is you will still be able to train and buy/sell. You will get the usual amount of money you used to get last season, but now you will get it from lower average players since it is hard to train them. The price of players will increase, so training from a 40 to 50 now will get you the same money you used to get last season by training from a 40 to 60. Why? because you put in the same effort, and the money in the game did not disappear so people will pay more for a 50 player. So you can give your players high release clauses as you can pay that amount from the now more valuable 40/50/60 average players. This will not happen overnight, it will take a season or two until you feel this in the market...but that's because how any economy works.

Stop trying to convince me that increasing training will make new teams richer. It will NOT!!!