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I actually don't know the rules that guide @ handing punishments but look at the situation tell me this @ did a very a good job as he brought peace and stability to the game or chaos and conflict
am not 100% right as i have a hand in the problem as well just as you were bad at doing your job cause you've been bad at it for long time
the preferred user i opened i spent three days working on it just when the season began and when players without team are cheaper and i targeted junior ones and got lucky to get 50+ average ones with just 5,000,000 & almost had a team built with 50 average completely 85% coach 89 junior coach. Didn't you wait three days to remove the team & you tell me you not cruel & in your feelings doing stuffs on delibrate purpose even after i begged and acknowledge my wrong which i rather think as a misunderstanding.
imagine this stuff be going on two weeks plus and counting and i was ready to prove you just a bad @ for the game you would end up deleting every comment and prove am right
23/09/2022 09:12
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Sir. Emelie said:
@sicox86 said:
Sir. Emelie said:
@sicox86 said:
Bank of america said:
Sir. Emelie said:


Edited by @sicox86 22-09-2022 06:36

Aaahhh! You ain't seen a menace like this before.
day you lose the badge the day you lose your life. mark my words you commit suicide at the end of day

I am actually going to leave this up and break protocol.
This is a user who has created multiple accounts, and admitted it. This is a clear breach of rule 1. As he admitted it I allowed him to keep an account rather than remove all (such was the level of his multiple account use). He created more and more accounts after that before creating the account which he used to write a message about me and my mother on the public forum this morning. Then he writes about me committing suicide with another new account, his 13th account in total.
This is unfortunately the level we are at with some users.

Edited by @sicox86 22-09-2022 16:55


Why saying it here. How can we know this. Are you telling us this because you've removed him from the game.

You said you allowed him to keep an account. Did you remove him from the game because he wrote about your mother and you committing suicide.?

If you had no @ tool and he wrote those, could you remove him from the game ?


Edited by Sir. Emelie 22-09-2022 22:01

I think you're getting this wrong so I'll make it a easier to understand.
The user made 3 accounts (and was using all three) at the same time.
I asked what was going on, and he said he was sorry for what he did so I removed two of the accounts and let him keep one. Kind of normal procedure at this point.
The user then created many more accounts over a two week period. I removed all of those, saying he already had an account.
He retaliated and wrote the messages we see here.
He has had multiple accounts removed because of breach of rule 1 rather than this awful behavior.

You asked if I had no @ tool would I have removed him from the game - of course, without the tool I couldn't remove anyone from the game. However, let's say you or another non-@ user had showed me that a user had said such words to you - they'd be gone, case closed, no argument. And never allowed to return. This may give you a small window into previous cases that got a lot of people angry. Some users throw around death threats or prejudiced language that cannot be overlooked even though you don't really want to remove them. We have a rulebook in the @ circle, written down, and actually some of the harshest punishments are given for those who abuse the game's platform with aggressive, abusive violent or prejudiced language.

Why I chose to leave it here is because, when this account is also removed, there is a bit more transparency of the why.


You didnt answer my first question as why you deleted my first comment. Did it also break your rule?

Again, I think the devs should review some rules guiding this game. This is a competition and you should expect feuding amongst the users. This game is a reflection of real football and you don't "gone" managers from football just because they exchang abusive words. Fine or detain the managers and not remove them. Take the recent conflict that occurred between Thomas Tuchel and Conte in Epl.

Your last line, I'm wondering which account in question.

Ah, your first question. No, sorry.
I mistakenly erased your comment (which I believe was "Ahhhhhhhhh") when removing the abusive words.

I take your point about there needing to be rivalry but I don't recall any real life manager getting away with saying anything about the other manager commiting suicide, nor can I imagine any league body allowing it.

My job is to interpret a line drawn by the owners of the game and enforce it. And I'm sorry, but suggesting one user should commit suicide will always be over this line.
23/09/2022 10:55
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STOP d CAP said:
I actually don't know the rules that guide @ handing punishments but look at the situation tell me this @ did a very a good job as he brought peace and stability to the game or chaos and conflict
am not 100% right as i have a hand in the problem as well just as you were bad at doing your job cause you've been bad at it for long time
the preferred user i opened i spent three days working on it just when the season began and when players without team are cheaper and i targeted junior ones and got lucky to get 50+ average ones with just 5,000,000 & almost had a team built with 50 average completely 85% coach 89 junior coach. Didn't you wait three days to remove the team & you tell me you not cruel & in your feelings doing stuffs on delibrate purpose even after i begged and acknowledge my wrong which i rather think as a misunderstanding.
imagine this stuff be going on two weeks plus and counting and i was ready to prove you just a bad @ for the game you would end up deleting every comment and prove am right

I'm pretty sure, if you announce your arrival on a thread with "You ain't seen a menace like this before" that the one aiming to cause chaos and disharmony is you.

As for the two weeks thing, this is irrelevant. You messed up meaning you were operating multiple accounts for whatever reason. I said you keep one account, but you thought you should be able to pick and choose another account. On what basis? Should we let users make multiple accounts until they maybe get lucky and find a Div 3 system bot? You were told that's the account you keep and you chose to ignore it. It's not a misunderstanding if you operate multiple teams even over a few days. We've seen many examples of people logging in with old details by mistake and you know what, we understand, and we see the benefit of the doubt. When you start managing several teams, buying or re-signing players, upgrading the stadium - that's not an accident, there is no try before you buy.
I'm not really sure where you're seeing the grave injustice.

Edited by @sicox86 23-09-2022 11:17
23/09/2022 11:04
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STOP d CAP said:
There on i have gone on to open many more which have met the same fate. I definetely think you were born out a woman's butt hole if you abusing power without wisdom, knowledge and understanding.
now tell why you wouldn't be having suicide thoughts with all the affected users raining hail and storm on you and bro you want to live long lol...cause that's funny when so much african's on here wish you bad just as the bible mentions there's power in the tongue.
if only the devs are seeing this as the @ is abusing power and not following protol entirely. I think he's not fit for the job as he doesn't investigate nothing just good at clicking the remove button.
you claim to have allowed me keep a team well let me refresh your fine memory as it belongs 6FT with them sin equpio just as you've deleted comments on here and in future too which are evidence on this ongoing case and how you detained the last one from making comments on here or with any manager including you.
my question now is what the way forward now!

By all means, make a complaint.
At the point we're at now of course I removed the privilege of being able to keep an account here - what did you expect after this? You simply can't use the game's platform in this way. Those community guidelines you agreed to are really important here.
If you're unhappy with the treatment or case resolution by an @ you do things the right way. This is not the right way.
23/09/2022 11:11
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I don't think you a fan of the sport called football. In reality much more has happened take for instance mendy rape case, onana dope test, balotelli row with team-mates & managers across his career, players swearing at match officials or using abusive words aimed at players and officials. Even a recent story where a female footballer sent thugs to attack a fellow team-mate.
you see where am going with this, football has it's bad side so does SM. And none of this people were condemn to death as they were punished in every way seem fit for the situation as trial occurs first before sentencing or punishment.
you didn't portray any of the above guidelines as a good prosecutor as you quick to judge a book by the cover.
as a manager i'm suppose to sign players, hire staffs, change lineup, sign sponsors & every major thing to elevate the team and just all that i did.
you make it seem difficult to solve this case cause you making the wrong assumptions everyday we learn and you finding it hard to accept the truth.
23/09/2022 12:17
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''You ain't seen a menace like this before'' was a good media publicity stunt as discussed by the manager, board & club media broadcast crew before you sent them all to the after life as i was out of the states when the horrific incident happened as their family, friends & loved ones wail & wept like infacts and i was pushed to compassion calling the higher up's to take blame for their misfortune.
what the benefit of being in div3 with a low life squad without financial capacity to even pay the stadium upgrade next come the accessory sanction piled with all the heavy blows of trashing at the hands of a merciless opponents.
am sorry but those two weeks are relevant as time is the most important part of anyone's life & we both can't buy back that time as it's priceless.
i never managed several teams at once cause as you're the core reason i kept making a new 'one' everytime you axe them now the league be filled with system bot which isn't good for other managers.
23/09/2022 12:46
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''CHOICE'' you could never take away my choice or preferance as you were given the chance to pick a username(manager) of your choice. so why you enforcing yours and denying me of my right?
hmmm...ah! the badge of course isn't that why you think you dwayne johnson bullying users out here.
i don't care what team am given as they always broke & dead below average to compete for trophies. What matter is my name as that's how people recognize my existance and know me as the user behind whatever team i manage and applaude my role in the development of SM which am down to earth for. as i love the game as much as others do but i can't speak for you.
i ask the question again, what the way forward now! cause you still haven't answered that part of the debate.
and stop making me make more teams by muting me from commenting from the same team cause it starting to look disgusting.
23/09/2022 13:08
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Benefit of doubt said:
I don't think you a fan of the sport called football. In reality much more has happened take for instance mendy rape case, onana dope test, balotelli row with team-mates & managers across his career, players swearing at match officials or using abusive words aimed at players and officials. Even a recent story where a female footballer sent thugs to attack a fellow team-mate.
you see where am going with this, football has it's bad side so does SM. And none of this people were condemn to death as they were punished in every way seem fit for the situation as trial occurs first before sentencing or punishment.
you didn't portray any of the above guidelines as a good prosecutor as you quick to judge a book by the cover.
as a manager i'm suppose to sign players, hire staffs, change lineup, sign sponsors & every major thing to elevate the team and just all that i did.
you make it seem difficult to solve this case cause you making the wrong assumptions everyday we learn and you finding it hard to accept the truth.

I'm not sure if voluntarily putting yourself shoulder to shoulder with alleged rapists and organised crime puts you in right, but that's outside the scope of this discussion.
You seem to be missing two crucial elements. 1) the other user suggests that words etc should be accepted as part of the game, as banter. None of the actions you mentioned here have been accepted - that's why you're aware of them. The same is true here. 2) You were not sentenced to death. You live to create more harmony as is duly evident.
I'm certainly relatively quick to read the data on users operating multiple accounts when it's black and white. You're right that as a user of the game you're "supposed" to operate the team. What's very clearly prohibited and very clearly evident is you were doing so for more than one team at a time.
You can ask another @ if you like. And you can make a complaint, as I have already suggested and someone will take a look at the data and at your recent abusive outbursts.
But you won't find any other outcome available to you than that. And I doubt the decision would be different.
23/09/2022 13:13
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Benefit of doubt said:
''CHOICE'' you could never take away my choice or preferance as you were given the chance to pick a username(manager) of your choice. so why you enforcing yours and denying me of my right?
hmmm...ah! the badge of course isn't that why you think you dwayne johnson bullying users out here.
i don't care what team am given as they always broke & dead below average to compete for trophies. What matter is my name as that's how people recognize my existance and know me as the user behind whatever team i manage and applaude my role in the development of SM which am down to earth for. as i love the game as much as others do but i can't speak for you.
i ask the question again, what the way forward now! cause you still haven't answered that part of the debate.
and stop making me make more teams by muting me from commenting from the same team cause it starting to look disgusting.

Please see my latest comment. This gives guidance on the way forward for you as a user now.
23/09/2022 13:14
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In the interest of transparency, the foul-mouthed user asked that his account was removed and he made another account to continue in the game under the game rules.
Here is his new account: http://en3.strikermanager.com/usuario.php?id=12008663
23/09/2022 20:24
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