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Why should a loan contract stop a player from being taken over by a hostile takeover? 11/04/2013 15:41
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I can't tell if you are joking or being serious... 11/04/2013 16:39
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Seriously, my scouts find players with the search criteria I specify but I can't consider hiring them if they are loaned! 11/04/2013 16:44
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Ah. I forget if there is a search condition to exclude loaned players. I think a few of the reasons include rewriting the code logic would be a nightmare, not to mention it would fundamentally alter the entire loan process as we know it, completely undermining an outstanding system. 11/04/2013 16:50
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I just think if someone is under paying a loaned player they should risk losing them in the same way they might with any other player. 11/04/2013 17:43
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lardysam said:
I just think if someone is under paying a loaned player they should risk losing them in the same way they might with any other player.



Going by that logic do you think we should get rid of protection on juniors who have been resigned and have the (R) protector? In my mind there is no difference between resigning a Junior and loaning him out.
11/04/2013 19:06
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if I good understand this up, I think it's not possible ... one of the reasons is that when a player is loaned his new manager can not increase or decrease the salary 11/04/2013 20:44
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lardysam said:
I just think if someone is under paying a loaned player they should risk losing them in the same way they might with any other player.


So then I have to give my players on loan crazy high salaries (which then are paid by the people who they are loaned to) just to ensure they don't get hostiled. It does suck seeing loaned players in your scout/technical director but that's just what happens sometimes.
11/04/2013 23:33
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I kind of agree with this actually.

I always borrow my forwards instead of paying the prohibitively high prices, but it is a bit of an exploit. Why should a borrowing manager benefit from not having to buy key players plus not paying market rate salaries? It really just benefits managers like me who are willing to search out solid loan agreements, and significantly disadvantages managers who can't or won't do that leg work.

So I don't see anything wrong with a rule that says, if you're already avoiding buying expensive players, but benefiting from their average and skills anyway, at least pay the players' true salaries for 12 weeks.
12/04/2013 03:26
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Anonymous01 said:
I kind of agree with this actually.

I always borrow my forwards instead of paying the prohibitively high prices, but it is a bit of an exploit. Why should a borrowing manager benefit from not having to buy key players plus not paying market rate salaries? It really just benefits managers like me who are willing to search out solid loan agreements, and significantly disadvantages managers who can't or won't do that leg work.

So I don't see anything wrong with a rule that says, if you're already avoiding buying expensive players, but benefiting from their average and skills anyway, at least pay the players' true salaries for 12 weeks.



It's a terrible idea. At best. How on earth is you taking players on loan an exploit? If anything, the manager loaning the player is exposed to the risk. Not to mention "doing the legwork" is kinda how managers are successful in this game...so feel free to reward freeloaders. I tend to favor rewarding those who work and build relationships.


Speaking of loan risk, if loaned players required a "competitive" or "normal" salary, than one can only continue the logic and state that loaned players' salaries may be adjusted during the season. <-- is terrible.

Talk about opening the game up to abuses. I'll wager the farm that if this setup were in practice, managers would be going bankrupt left and right. If a loaner notices that the loanee isn't training the player, then what would prevent the loaner from increasing the loaned player's salary to 2 billion or whatever, effectively bankrupting the loanee? Or maybe not even bankrupting, but screwing over the loanee by shattering a wage structure etc.

I could continue on with the fallacies of such an idea but I'm disinclined to spend additional time on the subject.

It may be easier and a more logical question to pose whether the developers can introduce a search feature similar to the Resigned criteria, instead name it "on loan" or something along those lines.
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