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Edited by +ArmoKidd+ 30-09-2011 21:27
30/09/2011 21:25
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stams said:

2. I wouldn't consider @Rands statements that there was a 3 friendly "maximum" (a word he never used), when the @'s themselves (and some of the other top players) were playing far more than that. I saw that as a tacit allowance of the act. If we are going to argue fairness, how is it fair that the top players are getting extra practice to perfect tactics? Doesn't that just increase the already lopsided nature of this game, where the rich get richer and the poor stay poor?


Edited by stams 30-09-2011 21:12

everyone who has played more than 3 friendlies will be punished.
The @'s themselves did play over 3 friendlies a day but that was to find mistakes and bug and what not and get them fixed, they even said that they will take away all of the experience earned from friendlies and also the money they earned...


Edited by +ArmoKidd+ 30-09-2011 21:27
30/09/2011 21:26
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Did they ever say that is why they were playing so many extra games. I never saw a single official post where they said that, but I could be wrong. Yeah, they will take away the experience they earned and the money they made. I would be fine if they did that to me too. But you are forgetting that they will now have a huge advantage with tactics now over other people. They can't take that away. And also, I am not only getting the experience and money I made taken away, I am also getting a huge fine on top of it, and I am now going to be losing my team.

This doesn't seem to be a way to run a business or keep players in the game, where the people on the top are held to a different standard than everyone else.
30/09/2011 21:31
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Stams,

I rant quite a bit on these forums, especially at the developers on here. I personally had a day where I sent out 15 invites and got 15 people accept my invites for friendlies, I realised that something had gone terribly wrong and I stopped.

I agree that in a game like this, things should have been done in a different manner. The game should never have been released in it's current state and the bug with more than 3 friendlies was introduced without any basic error checking being done. Communication was awful and the update to say we've fixed all the major bug's and here comes the ban hammer could have been handled in a much much much much better way.

But, I'm sorry there is a but. If you played 100 friendlies, then you took the piss and you know it. Unless you're some kind of Striker Manager stalker you can't claim that because the @'s had 4 or 5 or 20 a day you could get away with it. Being a striker manager stalker myself, I know for certain that a lot of @'s didn't play more than 10 friendlies.

Some people read Reb's post and just carried on, even though he stated in the first line that he'd talked to a senior @ about it and it was a known bug. If you know that and carry on you take your chances.
30/09/2011 22:27
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Edited by grantis45 30-09-2011 22:27
30/09/2011 22:27
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The only thing that i disagree with is the experience reset >_> before the "friendly fest" i was rank 1 with 52k experience, after the fest i had about 64k. Fair enough, take those 12k that i gained, but reseting me down to 6k? I can't even trade >_<

Edited by Horath 01-10-2011 00:41
01/10/2011 00:40
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yea really... i used to have 30k experience all played under 30 games... and now they took 25k away from me...
like why punish the ones who have under 30 friendlies ?.....
punish the ones who played more than 30 not less...
01/10/2011 00:44
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Just being straight up. It was not the most "grace filled" decision, but it was a firm/relatively fair decision. And some sort of action had to be taken.

Let's move on and have fun this season. There are other "decisions" that need to be made, and thankfully, most of them do not have to do with punishments (but being Korean and seeing the rating of S.Korea's school feels to me like a punishment... LOL).

Hopefully everyone will learn from these mistakes.

Edited by jacobpark 01-10-2011 00:56
01/10/2011 00:55
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I was the one who strongly advocated for no penalties beyond monetary cap. My opinion is and was my own opinion, and becoming @ doesn't change my opinion one bit. HOWEVER, the decision is made by those who have put the blood, sweat and tears into the actual code behind Striker Manager. The decision has been made, and it negatively impacts the most active players, but it is one way to handle the problem. At this point, in spite of my personal opinion, I stand behind the decision made, and will devote all energies to *preventing* a recurrence of the kind of communication lapse that made what could have been cut-and-dried into a huge debacle. Clarifying rules, cleaning up FAQs, and responding promptly to questions are the best way to bring this about. I know the other new @ feel the same way, so rest assured if you can bear the pain of the most recent penalties long enough to stay in the game, it will get better. I'll stake my @ on it.

stams said:
@rebsiot said:

claiming ignorance on this topic is not going to work,


here's the primary thread, started last monday, so if you continued to play many friendlies after this, then *I explicitly* said something, and that you should have been worried.

http://uk.strikermanager.com/foros/hilo.php?id=263915&inicio=10





1. At the time you wrote this, you were not an @, so I would hardly consider the threat of punishment anything more than conjecture. In fact, you at one point advocated no punishment at all and basically implied that this is what was going to happen:

"As chief manufacturer, I agree:

"Let's get it done:

Friendlies income cap of $20million (or even $15 million. Whatever)
Reset player experience
Move on and have fun!"

Capiche?"

Why when you got your @ did you not bring this up?

2. I wouldn't consider @Rands statements that there was a 3 friendly "maximum" (a word he never used), when the @'s themselves (and some of the other top players) were playing far more than that. I saw that as a tacit allowance of the act. If we are going to argue fairness, how is it fair that the top players are getting extra practice to perfect tactics? Doesn't that just increase the already lopsided nature of this game, where the rich get richer and the poor stay poor?



Edited by stams 30-09-2011 21:12

01/10/2011 01:29
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jacobpark said:
Just being straight up. It was not the most "grace filled" decision, but it was a firm/relatively fair decision. And some sort of action had to be taken.

Let's move on and have fun this season. There are other "decisions" that need to be made, and thankfully, most of them do not have to do with punishments (but being Korean and seeing the rating of S.Korea's school feels to me like a punishment... LOL).

Hopefully everyone will learn from these mistakes.

Edited by jacobpark 01-10-2011 00:56


This. Just move on and stop sulking about it. Enjoy the season and be happy this fiasco is over. The people who succeed are the people who actually move on and accept things the way they are. Adaptability is a key in anything in life, so learn to just forget it and move on.
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