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I think one of the fault am finding with SM is that unlike most football manager there can be no upsets whatsoever (if both managers are active) because even with all the noise about tactics, the person with a superior average always wins. There is no way I can beat a team in divisions 1, 2, 3, 4, not necessarily because they have better tactics but because Player superiority count more than tactics. I think developers should be able to create a 50/50 balance between tactics and player superiority. Has any manager in division 6 or 5 ever win the Striker Cup? I predict easily the outcome f every match by looking at far my players are superior or inferior to another manager and by my calculations I know already where I would finish this season both in my league and private league hence my excitement is over. |
04/10/2014 17:45 |
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How is a div 6 team (newcomer in the game) supposed to win the striker cup ahead of a div 1 team (playing for 3 long years and never won it)? Haven't those teams spent seasons trying not to relegate and always looking to get better? Or is it just the lower division and newer teams who need the best jetpack to rise up the ranks? Get yourself better players and work through tactics, give yourself a chance to promote from div 4 and you'll know what this game is all about. This is not some FIFA game where you can trick the rules and become the best. And if you really think SC is predictable, try your luck for the finals. |
04/10/2014 20:48 |
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Yubix said: I think one of the fault am finding with SM is that unlike most football manager there can be no upsets whatsoever (if both managers are active) because even with all the noise about tactics, the person with a superior average always wins. There is no way I can beat a team in divisions 1, 2, 3, 4, not necessarily because they have better tactics but because Player superiority count more than tactics. I think developers should be able to create a 50/50 balance between tactics and player superiority. Has any manager in division 6 or 5 ever win the Striker Cup? I predict easily the outcome f every match by looking at far my players are superior or inferior to another manager and by my calculations I know already where I would finish this season both in my league and private league hence my excitement is over. Win the striker cup? No. Advance fairly far? Yes. I made it down to round 6 (8 games) with a Div 5 team beating Div 4 and a Div 3 team. I beat the Div 3 based on tactics. He used poor tactics assuming I would be easy. There are many instances of lesser average teams beating better teams because of superior formation and tactics. It is actually one of the strong points of the game. |
04/10/2014 21:18 |
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So has any Division 5 ever won it? Yoyoyoyoyoyo there is no way I can beat your team with my current players, if I like I should invent whatever tactics, strategy etc..there is no magic but give a novice with a superior players than yours and he will definitely trash you with basic formation. No chances for upset, the probability does not exist in SM. The system is 80% of your players + 15% of tactic and 5% random factors. If asses with the above calculation, the outcome of a match is quite glaring. Its as simple as that. please can you give me any 3 instances of active manager with inferior players beating an active manager with superior players? Remember the word active and please put player superiority as a clear factor because I have seen a team in division 6 with a better squad than mine, so division does not count Player superiority (what you call player average) NB: the only outcome I can't predict is a matched team, say squad average of 70 playing with squad average of 67 and that is where the 15% tactic comes in. There is never an upset, never!!! In SM Stoke city can never ever defeat Manchester city |
05/10/2014 00:11 |
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Yubix said: So has any Division 5 ever won it? Yoyoyoyoyoyo there is no way I can beat your team with my current players, if I like I should invent whatever tactics, strategy etc..there is no magic but give a novice with a superior players than yours and he will definitely trash you with basic formation. No chances for upset, the probability does not exist in SM. The system is 80% of your players + 15% of tactic and 5% random factors. If asses with the above calculation, the outcome of a match is quite glaring. Its as simple as that. please can you give me any 3 instances of active manager with inferior players beating an active manager with superior players? Remember the word active and please put player superiority as a clear factor because I have seen a team in division 6 with a better squad than mine, so division does not count Player superiority (what you call player average) NB: the only outcome I can't predict is a matched team, say squad average of 70 playing with squad average of 67 and that is where the 15% tactic comes in. There is never an upset, never!!! In SM Stoke city can never ever defeat Manchester city My game Friday the team was rated several points higher than mine. I beat him 9-1. I have PL mates who in their Division are beating and drawing against higher rated overall teams. Again this happens often - and it has been stated often in the forums. Has a Division 5 team won the striker cup? No, as I previously said. Has a 5th level team won the FA cup? No, but some have knocked out a Premier League side. But I doubt anyone will change your mind, so I suggest you simply work on earning more money and buying better players to maximize that 80% potential you have calculated.... |
05/10/2014 03:11 |
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Your game against Bony May was evenly matched, would you call that an upset? Your average difference shouldn't be more than 5 and tactics would play a role in determining the outcome. I hope the division 6 guy you would be playing next in your team can at least limit you to just one goal but that aren't going to happen, if he likes let him pack a double decker bus and a trailer, let Mouriho, Wenger and Sir Alex come together to make strategies or tactics, that guy would receive if he is lucky nothing less than 10 goals. There should be balance is all am suggesting, let players average consist of 45%, and tactics 45% and random situations 10%...then all the noise about been a good tactician in the game would be justified. For now, invest in lots of golden balls time and in less than 3 to 4 seasons from you should be in division 3 or 2 with basic tactics and am sure that's where the 15% tactics matters |
05/10/2014 09:46 |
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Do you actually expect a Division 5 team to win the SC? I've been playing for over 2 years and I haven't even been close because teams above me have better players and tactics. But I'm not complaining. You're the equivalent of a Conference team right now. Div 1 teams being Premiership. Are you really trying to tell us that you should be beating them? Does that happen in real life? No. Shocks to that extent very rarely happen in real life but when they do its due to teams play a bunch of kids, which in this game isn't really possible. Please give me some examples of Division 5 and 6 teams in England (Conference Premier/Conference N/S) beating Premiership teams while they play their first team and not a bunch of 17 year olds from the academy. God help you if you think you should be able to beat a team in one of the top two divisions.... |
05/10/2014 10:27 |
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I think you should concentrate on developing your squad and farm some juniors. Let's face it that your squad isn't good enough for top 3 in div 5. | 05/10/2014 10:40 |
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The last I checked at slimRazor I wasn't discussing my team and maybe you should stick to the discussion and bring something to the table instead of stating the obvious, and I wasn't asking for any advice instead I was making a suggestion as this is a suggestion forum. If I need your very sound advice I won't be posting here, I would be posting at doubts and question. So thank you again for stating the obvious which isn't required | 05/10/2014 11:07 |
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Looks like I hit a very sore sensitive spot there!!! If you post in the forum others will add their views, like it or not!! My point is tactics are only good with good players. You have a very average squad so you can't really set tactics to win div 5 let alone the SM Cup !! With good speedy defenders you can have high defence line and play offside trap. I think most weak teams employ this tactic when come across a better ave team. Also use subs against tired defenders. I usually bring on my LW with 83 shot on 60 mins. He usually scores from outside the box. Edited by SlimRazor 05-10-2014 14:07 |
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