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What are your thoughts on this?
I like it, lets start it now
On the right track but let's change a few things
Maybe, but not this season
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I was reading the post with regards to the world cup (http://uk.strikermanager.com/foros/hilo.php?id=317026) and it got me thinking about a different way to hold the world cup. Instead of having a single manager for a given country why not have an entire team made up of players from a given country. Making a team full of USA players (for example) would allow managers to create national pools of players. I am interested to see who the best players are AND who the best managers are. The best managers for a country would potentially be the manager for the National team. We could vote on who the manager would be or something like that. This could be done for a U-20 WC as well. I think it would be nice to own a national team player on my team. This is completely different from what is currently proposed. The reason I am against the current system for the WC is because over time the same managers are going to be representing each country every year. I am very happy that your team value is above 65 but that is not a true reflection of a world cup. Furthermore this would put a greater importance on schools (especially those that no one rarely create). Finally it provides incentives for players in lower league to really develop junior players and train them properly. It puts someone in DII or DI on the same level as someone in DIV or DV with regards to having one of their players represent the national team. I have seen numerous teams that have a few really good players and the rest of their team is no where near the level of their "star players". This manager should have the same opportunities to represent their country as someone in an elite division. I propose that we find out who the best in game players are for each country and put them on a national team. Then have the best managers for each country control the national team by taking them into the WC. Thoughts? I think this added element would make the WC very exciting for more people around the game.

Side note:
You could make a special tag/icon/symbol for national team players. So when you view another managers page it becomes apparent if the manager has a national team player, or someone worthy or being in the national pool. Furthermore a manager who has a player make the national pool or the national team could receive some kind of bonus (or achievement) for completing this. Having a national player on your team could result in higher gate sales (because you have a national team player in your line-up), higher merchandise sales...the sky is the limit for this. For everyone that was complaining the game has become boring (http://uk.strikermanager.com/foros/hilo.php?id=317400) or are upset about the new junior purchasing rules (http://uk.strikermanager.com/foros/hilo.php?id=317458) this might calm you down a little and reenergize you with the game. Finally in the transfer market I think buying someone with national team or national pool potential will be beneficial for everyone. These are just my thought…please let me know what yours are. Thanks and good luck this season.
16/10/2012 18:42
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kol train said:
I was reading the post with regards to the world cup (http://uk.strikermanager.com/foros/hilo.php?id=317026) and it got me thinking about a different way to hold the world cup. Instead of having a single manager for a given country why not have an entire team made up of players from a given country. Making a team full of USA players (for example) would allow managers to create national pools of players. I am interested to see who the best players are AND who the best managers are. The best managers for a country would potentially be the manager for the National team. We could vote on who the manager would be or something like that. This could be done for a U-20 WC as well. I think it would be nice to own a national team player on my team. This is completely different from what is currently proposed. The reason I am against the current system for the WC is because over time the same managers are going to be representing each country every year. I am very happy that your team value is above 65 but that is not a true reflection of a world cup. Furthermore this would put a greater importance on schools (especially those that no one rarely create). Finally it provides incentives for players in lower league to really develop junior players and train them properly. It puts someone in DII or DI on the same level as someone in DIV or DV with regards to having one of their players represent the national team. I have seen numerous teams that have a few really good players and the rest of their team is no where near the level of their "star players". This manager should have the same opportunities to represent their country as someone in an elite division. I propose that we find out who the best in game players are for each country and put them on a national team. Then have the best managers for each country control the national team by taking them into the WC. Thoughts? I think this added element would make the WC very exciting for more people around the game.

Side note:
You could make a special tag/icon/symbol for national team players. So when you view another managers page it becomes apparent if the manager has a national team player, or someone worthy or being in the national pool. Furthermore a manager who has a player make the national pool or the national team could receive some kind of bonus (or achievement) for completing this. Having a national player on your team could result in higher gate sales (because you have a national team player in your line-up), higher merchandise sales...the sky is the limit for this. For everyone that was complaining the game has become boring (http://uk.strikermanager.com/foros/hilo.php?id=317400) or are upset about the new junior purchasing rules (http://uk.strikermanager.com/foros/hilo.php?id=317458) this might calm you down a little and reenergize you with the game. Finally in the transfer market I think buying someone with national team or national pool potential will be beneficial for everyone. These are just my thought…please let me know what yours are. Thanks and good luck this season.


i have heard of this idea before, too much work to be honest. the current idea for world cup needs no help from devs and is easier to plan, also how would you decide who manages what team, which players they use ect..

it is a nice idea in theory but to implement and run would be an unneeded headache for many people
16/10/2012 19:47
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Too long ^_^ 16/10/2012 20:13
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bowsey1986 said:

i have heard of this idea before, too much work to be honest. the current idea for world cup needs no help from devs and is easier to plan, also how would you decide who manages what team, which players they use ect..

it is a nice idea in theory but to implement and run would be an unneeded headache for many people



If you thought you were qualified to be the coach of a national team then in forums you would post a resume of your career for StrikerManger and then for fellow countrains (not sure if that is the right word) would vote for you during a designated window. After the window is closed whoever has the most votes would be the coach of the national team for a year. At the end of the season voting starts again.

The line-up would be selected by the coach for the national team. He/she would be able to pull players from the national pool and place into the countries lineup.

I have played a soccer manager game called Hattrick (www.hattrick.org) before and they used this system for national teams and it was amazing. From a managers perspective it was nice seeing your guys having a shot to play for the national team. The national teams had friendlies and everything it was really involved and very sweet. I left hattrick because the game takes years to progress. I had three years in it and only moved up 2 leagues. It was too time consuming/slow/ and I got bored with it. That is why I love Strikermanager. Must faster and very fun. This concept can work bu it will take some time to impliment. But totally worth it.

Side Note:
With the current World Cup system how is it fair for someone from China to play for a USA manager's team in the World cup. That is why I like my approach better. I am not saying it is the perfect system but I think its an improvment
16/10/2012 20:29
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I'm familiar with Hattricks system and if done right would be amazing. All friendlies would have to be in beta though and there's always the other teams left in strikercup. 18/10/2012 07:37
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So you want me to do ALL this? How? for example please tell me how I will take 11 best players from each country and make them play a game? You say my world cup has a single manager representing a country (which isn't even true) but then you say your version of world cup would have ONE manager chosen to represent...
Also not the same managers will represent a country every season as I don't choose the teams per country. I let an undefined number of people enter per country so there could be USA 1, USA2, USA 3...
I work with what I got while we wait for the devs to implement a world cup in this game. I doubt it will happen soon as they said it wasn't in their priorities.


Again, I am doing all I can given the amount of help I got so far so if you really want this better version of world cup then I am probably not willing to do this. Of course if there is a group of willing managers that decide they will do this I will just give them the list of managers in the world cup I started and cancel mine. No problem there, I won't mind having a better version. But as I was told before it is better to start easy and see how it works.

If you have a much easier and better version I am willing to listen to it and add if I have time to.

Also I think I will just call my "world cup", "War of nations" or "Tournament of Nations" now

I move this thread to suggestion forum.



Edited by @patient 18-10-2012 08:20
18/10/2012 08:17
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ziccodinho said:
Too long ^_^

Totally agree,doze off while reading it.
18/10/2012 13:07
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@patient said:
So you want me to do ALL this? How? for example please tell me how I will take 11 best players from each country and make them play a game? You say my world cup has a single manager representing a country (which isn't even true) but then you say your version of world cup would have ONE manager chosen to represent...
Also not the same managers will represent a country every season as I don't choose the teams per country. I let an undefined number of people enter per country so there could be USA 1, USA2, USA 3...
I work with what I got while we wait for the devs to implement a world cup in this game. I doubt it will happen soon as they said it wasn't in their priorities.


Again, I am doing all I can given the amount of help I got so far so if you really want this better version of world cup then I am probably not willing to do this. Of course if there is a group of willing managers that decide they will do this I will just give them the list of managers in the world cup I started and cancel mine. No problem there, I won't mind having a better version. But as I was told before it is better to start easy and see how it works.

If you have a much easier and better version I am willing to listen to it and add if I have time to.

Also I think I will just call my "world cup", "War of nations" or "Tournament of Nations" now

I move this thread to suggestion forum.



Edited by @patient 18-10-2012 08:20


I don't disagree taht this would be a monumental task. I am not saying the current method for the WC is wrong. I am simply expressing another way of doing it. Thats all. When you said "please tell me how the best 11 players for each county take the field" this is up to the manager of the national team. The manager of the national team would be selected the same way of the current WC method. Once he is selected the National team manager would have access to seeing all of the players in "country x's" database/national pool (the best of the best). This would have to be an ongoing database that is constantly updated. Then before each match the coach would go to the national pool and hand pick who he wants on his squad.

I am not knocking on your skills/abilities as a programer or moderator for the game. I love this game and I appreciate everything you and the team have done to bring us such a fun/great game. I understand that we start "easy" and build from there. It is possible that this version that I am proposing could be years/seasons away from being implemented (if at all). I am just thinking about what could be done.

And I like the name of the competion as well. I think either of those you proposed is a cool idea.
18/10/2012 18:29
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kol train said:
Once he is selected the National team manager would have access to seeing all of the players in "country x's" database/national pool (the best of the best). This would have to be an ongoing database that is constantly updated. Then before each match the coach would go to the national pool and hand pick who he wants on his squad.





There is no current way to go and pick a squad anywhere for free and that is why I asked to explain. The only way to get player is by buying, selling or loaning.

And I am a moderator, I don't implement things in this game.
18/10/2012 21:25
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I dont even read the 7-8 lines long FAQs then how can I read this ????? this is ridiculous 19/10/2012 15:08
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