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Are you creating more chances than the opposition, yet still losing games?
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I too find this interesting. I don't have a solution but I do find it curious. My three draws, including today's, are bizarre in that sense. I think in my three draws this season the opponents have had like 10 shots on goal, and scored 9 (today he had 2 goals with 3 shots on target), while I've had literally five times the number of shots on goal, but tie.

I do wonder if the game is slanted towards CFs, or if something else is occurring. I don't mind losing or drawing if I can determine what is wrong, or to an equal or superior team, etc etc, but sometimes it's just impossible to determine why. I really don't believe stats seem to factor into the win/loss equation anymore. 15 shots on goal = two goals, 3 shots on goal = 2 goals, etc etc.

But my PL mates are wise folks and most don't seem to have the issue, so it's probably just me.
18/07/2012 20:21
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I've been finding it very strange this season. I've had 2-3 draws in my league this season where I fully dominated the opposition now from time to time this happens in real football too so I understand. It's just that the margins for winning promotion are so small I feel like I'm already out of it now. I can still beat the teams above me but will it be enough. I've posted before about total domination draws with stats as well.

Look I understand it happens occasionally but pls let it happen to my competition as well not just my squad. Then the league will surely be exciting

Feel your pain guys and been there too, just remember it does happen from time to time in real football. Remember this game is still awesome
18/07/2012 20:38
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i know CFs are annoying at the moment, but you have to understand that Shots on Target is not the a reliable stat.. every shot that is even blocked by a defender is counted as SoT.

For me, more of one on one chances count.. and they are frustrating..
19/07/2012 12:27
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Also remember that mids will score from certain areas more frequently than others. Just a matter of them getting there. 19/07/2012 12:55
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Truth time: the devs would really like to make the game more realistic, but they are struggling with extreme complexity. Remember the ridiculous number of bugs? Most are fixed now, and I suspect they are afraid to touch the sim with big changes.

Having said that, give up on realism. They don't care as much about that as we do, because it is overwhelmingly complex to change without destroying the whole system. Instead, focus on finding the quirks in the system.

Part of the problem with this game is that at different levels, different positions perform well. A half-decent CF can dominate an defense in div. 5-7. As defenders get stronger, CFs do not improve as quickly as other striking positions such as LM/LIM and wingers. Once you hit Div. 2, CFs start to hit averages where they become dangerous again, and in Div. 1, it's all tactics and free-for-all as to what the best strikers are.

Same with defenders. Watch a few div. 1 games and you'll see all kinds of kooky defensive strategies working. Strikers defending, IM/LIM and LM defending, no CDF and just a couple DFMs with LB/RB, throwing everybody into the box like an egg carton or throwing everything over the midfield line and rushing back to defend.

The key is to choose a long-term strategy for team structure, a basic set of positions to train and to buy, and then execute it. Modify as you have to, and try to stay ahead of the rest of players as the sim shifts.

Then you can roll around in agony as every single shot from inside the penalty box misses but 1, and still win 1-0.

It's not that you should give up hope they will fix their s***, just to be careful what you wish for. The reason we got stupid strikers was a bunch of annoying people were complaining that when a div. 3 team played a div. 7 team, the scores were unrealistic. And they took that to mean that strikers should all look like buffoons most of the time instead of trying to make the defense more accurate.

Apologies to those people I called annoying. I'm sure you're all lovely people in real life .
20/07/2012 03:59
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Thank you @Cello.

It's kinda sh*t though (what you're saying about the developers), but I very much appreciate your impartial and honest response.
20/07/2012 04:29
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Dee12345 said:
Ok, enough is enough.

What on earth is going on with the sim?

Almost every game I've lost this season, I've had more shots on goal, and more shots on target. This is starting to get ridiculous. I've let it go for the past couple of weeks (out of patience) but it's really starting to annoy me now.

Many others have had the same issue. Why on earth should I have to shell out 100 Million on a new winger, because the sim deems every CF to be Emile Heskey, and every Winger to be Cristiano Ronaldo?

I now play my winger as a CF because my 79% finishing CF can't seem to score.

Many others have come up to me complaining about this, and many others have threatened to quit over it. It's clear that there's something not working properly, or perhaps not designed properly, because whilst my tactics aren't the greatest, they're not the worst either.

If my team is creating more chances than the opposition, shooting more shots on goal than the opposition, what more can I do?

Once in a while, a team with less shots on goal win a game. ONCE IN A WHILE. But 9 times out of 10 the team with more shots win. In this sim it seems as though it's the opposite.

Many have said they feel like quitting, and I've said to people; 'Just be patient'.

But even my patience is being tested now.





Edited by Dee12345 18-07-2012 19:57

but you dont complain about this when you won your league in div 4 and got promoted....remember things cant be going smooth always,anyway to me the sim is alright,you are now in div 3.a test time for you.just play and lets see what you are made of
20/07/2012 15:23
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Double post,pardon

Edited by Oyewale 20-07-2012 15:30
20/07/2012 15:24
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The Simulator is ****** up !
My Lw takes some 10-12 shots on goal to fethc me a single goal that is okay against a good team but against that was a system bot .
My Lim and im scored in a single shot .
20/07/2012 15:29
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Oyewale said:
Dee12345 said:


Edited by Dee12345 18-07-2012 19:57


but you dont complain about this when you won your league in div 4 and got promoted....remember things cant be going smooth always,anyway to me the sim is alright,you are now in div 3.a test time for you.just play and lets see what you are made of



I would disagree that the sim is alright and @cello's post explained just that. The sim has been changed to the liking of those who have felt a need for change over the seasons. The devs have been trying to fix all the bugs that users requested and work out the kinks they know of. If it is touched anymore then it will be an even bigger mess and that could ruin the whole experience. In a way like stated before, you are forced to play to the different liking's of the sim (according to your div) in order to advance. That's part strategy but also part messed up.

Let's see what you think when you get to Div 4, spend millions on positions and the sim changes on you and your stuck for another season in the same div. (That statement is part subjective but also part fact)


I think @cello's post should be stickyed out of here for new users to see under the FAQ section if something like that is not already there. That's just my two cents. Good luck in PL's this weekend everyone.

20/07/2012 15:50
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