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@grantis45 said: free2bejc said: At the start of the next season couldn't hundreds of thousands of system bots be removed? Frankly it's boring playing in the lower leagues with nearly no real life managers. Possibly in conjunction with the market value selling of system bot's players, this move could help the player inflation and reduce the ridiculous amount of unmanagered teams. I hope you have the 13.5m for accessories ready when this jumps you up to div4 I think you kinda misunderstand my suggestion, it is not that we keep the same number of leagues and simply move everyone up into a place a system bot occupied but rather reduce the number of leagues in accordance with how many people are playing, currently there are way too many leagues and way too many system bots. obviously in the newly created boards as we started with division 4 or something (?) and every time you got promoted you went up to 3 then 2 then 1 etc. You were able to ensure that active players were promoted into active leagues with other active players who had worked hard to get there. Ultimately my idea is to get rid of system bots and decrease the number of 'groups' as they are called in the board section. And finally, even if they did do it in the slightly idiotic manner you suggest by simply squashing as opposed to filtering, then yes, I do have the funds. However, I understand your point that some people in lower leagues would obviously fail to cope with the jump in finances. |
13/03/2012 20:55 |
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patient said: What do you expect by removing all the bots? Some challenging teams to appear or your league being made shorter or maybe you only play active managers until 38rounds are gone? Bots are better than nothing . And like I usually say if bots have no players, many games would be forfeited and till now we can't really get revenue from forfeited games. Also I don't know why people want players that another manager left there. Take it as if the players don't want to leave the team of their dead coach and decide to play in memory of him Edited by patient 12-03-2012 09:11 Again, I'm sorry for my inability to present my idea with clarity, yes Bots are indeed better than nothing but there are simply too many of them. Also there are some good-ish players @ bot controlled teams, a release of this 'stock' as it were would cause at least some depreciation of the inflated values of players in the market. With regards to your comment about the dead coach, I have no idea what you're trying to say... |
13/03/2012 21:00 |
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"dead coach" was a joke. Ok let's say they remove more than half of the groups in div6 and5 7, what about those managers relegating from upper division? http://uk.strikermanager.com/wiki/index.php?title=SISTEMA_DE_LIGAS (It will actually be top2 only next season promote not top5, so more relegating than promoting) This is how balanced it is, maybe remove div7 would help but I don't think it will affect you that much. I actually understand it that way, div6-7 with bots because that's where people start and they usually never login again therefor becoming bots and I don't think that will stop, but you can't ask the game to remove/add groups everytime a set of managers (let's say 50) login or becomes a bot. Also tons of managers may suddenly sign up to the game. And that is why those who stay the longest or do the better have the chance to go to div5-4-3-2-1 (5 is half bots half active) where it's full of active managers (few bots), and it's also why game sometimes sends offer to people to take over a bot in higher division. Like every game you play on easy first, then gradually go up. EDIT: Also everyone started in div6-7, and there where always bots down there so teams could take over them while signing up Edited by patient 13-03-2012 21:17 Edited by patient 13-03-2012 21:18 |
13/03/2012 21:15 |
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I see what you mean, that could be interesting, less groups. However you'd need to have more teams promoted from each division and I'm not sure that you wouldn't have a lot more people quiting when they can't immediately get out of div 7 or 6. Half the fun of the game is that feeling of being able to promote. I think another downside is that it'd immediately make div 7 or 6 very competitive. The way things stand at the moment, 6 and 7 are the places where you learn the game and get used to things, you can always take a jump up a division if you feel you're ready. I feel you'd have a lot of new teams quit, simply cos they can't win at all, with the current set up, if you vaguely work out tactics you'll promote. I was quite glad of my time in div 6, I was left alone to work out the game and joined a couple of close private leagues. When I went up to div5, I was ready and took a jump to div 4. I understand that was my personal circumstances, but that's what the offers to promote are for. |
13/03/2012 21:31 |
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patient said: "dead coach" was a joke. Ok let's say they remove more than half of the groups in div6 and5 7, what about those managers relegating from upper division? http://uk.strikermanager.com/wiki/index.php?title=SISTEMA_DE_LIGAS (It will actually be top2 only next season promote not top5, so more relegating than promoting) This is how balanced it is, maybe remove div7 would help but I don't think it will affect you that much. I actually understand it that way, div6-7 with bots because that's where people start and they usually never login again therefor becoming bots and I don't think that will stop, but you can't ask the game to remove/add groups everytime a set of managers (let's say 50) login or becomes a bot. Also tons of managers may suddenly sign up to the game. And that is why those who stay the longest or do the better have the chance to go to div5-4-3-2-1 (5 is half bots half active) where it's full of active managers (few bots), and it's also why game sometimes sends offer to people to take over a bot in higher division. Like every game you play on easy first, then gradually go up. EDIT: Also everyone started in div6-7, and there where always bots down there so teams could take over them while signing up Edited by patient 13-03-2012 21:17 Edited by patient 13-03-2012 21:18 @grantis45 said: I see what you mean, that could be interesting, less groups. However you'd need to have more teams promoted from each division and I'm not sure that you wouldn't have a lot more people quiting when they can't immediately get out of div 7 or 6. Half the fun of the game is that feeling of being able to promote. I think another downside is that it'd immediately make div 7 or 6 very competitive. The way things stand at the moment, 6 and 7 are the places where you learn the game and get used to things, you can always take a jump up a division if you feel you're ready. I feel you'd have a lot of new teams quit, simply cos they can't win at all, with the current set up, if you vaguely work out tactics you'll promote. I was quite glad of my time in div 6, I was left alone to work out the game and joined a couple of close private leagues. When I went up to div5, I was ready and took a jump to div 4. I understand that was my personal circumstances, but that's what the offers to promote are for. Hmm, thanks for your input guys. It's given me a fair bit to think about. However, Grantis, in reply to your idea about needing more teams promoted, I think that is a change that is necessary. Frankly if you have more than 2 active managers in a league, they're probably going to finish above the system bots providing their team is ok but they won't all be able to get promoted till the next season. It seems absurd to me at the time when you're learning your "trade" you are relegated for finishing the bottom half. I'm not sure that the pyramidal structure of the groups from each division is the right way to go, simply, I can't think of any league situation where that's the case. usually the same number of people are relegated as promoted? I understand the want to make it pyramidal ensures that the very top teams of div2 end up 1 and the others scrap it in div2 but these teams are nearly as good as each other. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
15/03/2012 19:50 |
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Yeah, but what's the alternative, you've got what 1024*20 div 6 teams, and 128*20 div 5 teams(ish, I can't be bothered to work out the exact numbers). The way the game's setup at the mo, is that if a load more players join, then there's space for them. If you push everything together then there isn't space for any new teams. | 15/03/2012 21:55 |
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They need to get more aggressive with allowing people to promote up. Currently its pretty much a no brainer from div 7 to div 6. However, getting a request to move from div 6 to div 5 or div 5 to div 4 comes with really steep penalties (in stadium upgrades). Currently the 45 days from start of season is fine when take the promotion a week or two in, but its near insanity to take late in the season. They need a way to allow the promotion to not incur such a penalty. Perhaps after the half way point you can take a promotion and not have to have the stadium upgrades until the following season, etc... |
15/03/2012 22:28 |
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dneighbors said: They need to get more aggressive with allowing people to promote up. Currently its pretty much a no brainer from div 7 to div 6. However, getting a request to move from div 6 to div 5 or div 5 to div 4 comes with really steep penalties (in stadium upgrades). Currently the 45 days from start of season is fine when take the promotion a week or two in, but its near insanity to take late in the season. They need a way to allow the promotion to not incur such a penalty. Perhaps after the half way point you can take a promotion and not have to have the stadium upgrades until the following season, etc... I like your idea +10000 |
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