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How many of you think Luis Suarez was innocent and was framed by Patrice Evra?
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Luis Suarez was banned for 8 matches by the FA on a complaint by Patrice Evra that he made racial comments against him 10 times.
Most of you would be knowing the background of this case. Here are a few interesting facts :-

1. This incident occurred during the match and wasn't captured by any of the cameras on the ground. While John Terry's racist rant was captured on camera and criminal proceedings are going against him for the same offence.

2. Luis Suarez has a history of violent conduct. While being in Ajax, he bit his opposition team's player shoulder.

3. None from the Utd team came forward to substantiate Evra's claims.

4. Patrice Evra had alleged racist claims against Chelsea's groundsmen a couple of seasons ago too and it was left under no evidence.

5. Liverpool and Manchester United have a bitter rivalry.

Whats your take?

Edited by R11G 08-02-2012 07:27
08/02/2012 07:27
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R11G, the claims of Evra crying wolve before are lies spread by popular LFC columnists Kristian Walsh. Liverpool’s official website columnist, Kristian Walsh, claimed on Twitter that “Patrice Evra has accused racism of three players before today. All three have been cleared.” This tweet was retweeted by hundreds of Liverpool fans, as were similar ones. The problem was, that it wasn’t remotely true, not one bit.

In fact, before Saturday, Evra had accused zero people of racism, not the three quoted by Mr. Walsh and dozens of other Liverpool fans, not two, nor even one. There have been two incidents involving Evra and accusations of racial insults, the only problem is that Evra did not claim in either that he was racially abused – the claims came from others.

In the 2006 case of claimed racial abuse by Steve Finnan, the accusation was levelled at Finnan by a deaf fan who claimed he lip-read the racial slur. Evra declined to complain. A rather odd thing to do for a man with a supposed inclination to play the race card, I’m sure you’ll agree.

In the case with involving Chelsea groundsman, Tony Bethell, it was Mike Phelan and Richard Hartis of Manchester United’s coaching staff who claimed they heard the abuse. As the FA report says “The two witnesses who say they heard those words directed by Mr Bethell at Mr Evra are the Manchester United first team coach Mr Mike Phelan and the goalkeeping coach Mr Richard Hartis.” It later goes on to say “Even if we disregard the fact that Mr Evra has never claimed to have heard such a remark on that day, it is notable that there were several other people far nearer to Mr Bethell at the critical point in time than were either Mr Phelan or Mr Hartis.”

So in reality, Evra accused neither Finnan nor Bethell of a racist remark. The claims were done by others. These are the cold, hard fachts as Rafa put it to Mr Ferguson. So let’s not try spin this.

The man was Guilty as Sin, There was in fact camera footage used to charge Suarez. Suarez is a cheat and a racist. His character is despicable.
08/02/2012 13:20
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Suarez - innocent or not innocent
We don't know, we weren't there, only him and Evra know what the F was going on
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08/02/2012 16:06
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Plz post the youtube link of the video here.

As per my knowledge there wasnt any video evidence and that is why no criminal proceedings are going on against Suarez while on Terry they are.
08/02/2012 16:08
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how can u say he was innocent, english FA published all the evidence and thats why lfc never appealed. he called evra negra 8 times and thats a fact. 08/02/2012 16:51
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Hello Blondie ^_^ 08/02/2012 17:00
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This is a ridiculous thread. 09/02/2012 04:40
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Suarez and Evra, relaxing, training, laughing with their friends and you guys here talking about something that will never really affect the course of your life. Ok I will join then.....
For Suarez case......He says "ni**a" and people are going crazzyyyyy. A rapist/raper (or however you call those guys who do rap) say ni**a 1000 times in a song and no charges. I walk down the street, teens use "ni**a" and no one makes a fuss about it.

All this above doesn't mean it's a good word but it means that suarez learnt the word from us, society.

Oh and Suarez is guilty because it was said by the laws, he would have reacted the same if Evra had said "nice teeth" or some word offensive to uruguayans......don't worry it doesn't mean his career is ruined or he and evra will kill each other, it means man u vs pools will be fun to watch (both being starters would be great )


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patient said:
Suarez and Evra, relaxing, training, laughing with their friends and you guys here talking about something that will never really affect the course of your life. Ok I will join then.....
For Suarez case......He says "ni**a" and people are going crazzyyyyy. A rapist/raper (or however you call those guys who do rap) say ni**a 1000 times in a song and no charges. I walk down the street, teens use "ni**a" and no one makes a fuss about it.

All this above doesn't mean it's a good word but it means that suarez learnt the word from us, society.

Oh and Suarez is guilty because it was said by the laws, he would have reacted the same if Evra had said "nice teeth" or some word offensive to uruguayans......don't worry it doesn't mean his career is ruined or he and evra will kill each other, it means man u vs pools will be fun to watch (both being starters would be great )


Edited by patient 09-02-2012 08:44


Very well said!
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There is a difference in the way that Suarez used the word, it was meant in a derogatory manner and as a professional footballer you are held accountable due to the rules of the game. My input here is done, honestly, the man was found guilty for a reason not based on some nonsense that Evra "spat" but with evidence gathered. If you get an 8-match suspension they must have had some real proof of the indiscretion. There is no conspiracy against Liverpool so it was all done fairly. 09/02/2012 12:54
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