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 I'm a tad frustrated coz my team just got whipped by a team with nowhere near my team's overall skill.
Why? Because the opposing team played an extremely aggressive offside trap, apparently pushing their defenders up to the halfway line under all circumstances - even on defence! And my players got blown for offside practically every time a forward touched the ball. I only managed to score once after a series of fouls "forced" the opposing defenders back.

This scenario is totally unrealistic. In a real game, if a team played such an aggressive offside trap, the forwards would know to drop back in front of the defenders, and they wouldn't hang around waiting to get blown for offside. And if a forward did manage to break through the trap, he wouldn't be so dumb as to pass to one of his teammates ahead of him! Unfortunately the simulator doesn't give the forwards enough intelligence to do this, nor the midfielders enough sense not to pass to someone who's blatantly offside.

BTW, I *am* using "Advanced formation", and supposedly keeping my forwards back in line with the ball. But it looks like in this offside trap situation, the defenders have an overwhelming advantage, especially given the bugginess that's causing so many false offside calls.

Can you please restore some power to the forwards and give them the ability to beat the offside trap?

Thanks! 		01/02/2012 20:23
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 First of all this is a Suggestions thread. So if u have some serious suggestions regarding dealing with offsides then post such topics here.

Now to answer ur question on offsides. Even i real life all big teams use high offsides if u havent noticed.

Second thing is the developers came up with the idea of lowering the effectiveness of defense if the opponents players were higher than a certain point (which i havent noticed yet). For u to counter act high offsides its either u also play offside trap or pull ur strikers back just enough to make a run to the goal. If u still cant understand what to do then watch some of the games of managers who play offside traps effectively and regularly. 		01/02/2012 20:44
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 OK, but in real life, the forwards will dynamically adapt their play according to where the opposing backs are. It seems silly always to have my attackers behind the halfway line, if my opponent is inexperienced/dumb enough to keep his defenders near his goal all the time. OTOH, if I play my attackers too far forward, as was the case today, I'll get blown for offside 27 times in one match.

Assuming your opponent never changes his tactics you could always look at his previous game to see how he plays his backline. But people can change tactics from game to game, and it seems silly to have to gamble on how he's going to play next game.

My suggestion is: let the forwards be intelligent enough to pull themselves back in front of the last defensive line, even if their "advanced formation" says they should be playing further forward. Maybe create an attribute on the player that makes him more offside-conscious (both for passing and receiving) - or make it a skill he can acquire through experience. 		01/02/2012 21:05
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 True, in reality forwards always stay in line with the opposing defenders. But in this game any team can beat any other by abusing this offside flaw, since all the CFs act like idiots.

Also the passers act weird too, they don't care if they're passing to a man who is clearly offside. These two flaws make offside traps way too powerful.


Edited by OnurD 04-02-2012 20:54 		04/02/2012 20:48
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 Offside trap is really not that hard to beat now, CDF's are clearly slower than they were when up at the half way line.

Anyone who tries to use the offside trap against me tends to get a serious kicking now.

I think the main issue is that CF's aren't built for speed, try LF/RF or wingers. CF's are more your goal poacher type(think Emile Heskey), LF/RF are your faster more skillfull players(Rooney) and wingers are your incredibly fast player (walcott). You need to think about combo's to try to break down opponents. There's absolutely no reason why you couldn't use 1LW,1LF, and a CF. Winger and LF to break the trap, CF to pick up ball in and around the box. 		06/02/2012 12:37
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@grantis45 said:
CF's are more your goal poacher type(think Emile Heskey)


i know cf's are a bit weak at the moment, but there's no need for that kind of language. 		06/02/2012 14:18
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06/02/2012 14:38
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 @Uruguay1950 - on SM at this point that would have been blown offside and the CF yellow-carded.

(P.S. don't take that as disparaging SM - it's a terrific game and I am wasting WAY more time than I should on it!) 		06/02/2012 15:50
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aleph44 said:
@grantis45 said:
CF's are more your goal poacher type(think Emile Heskey)


i know cf's are a bit weak at the moment, but there's no need for that kind of language.


I would like to say sorry for mentioning Emile Heskey in any thread, ever. 		06/02/2012 23:20
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 Apology never accepted.

I'll never accept Martin O'Neill's apology either.

Edited by hewhoamareismyself 06-02-2012 23:58 		06/02/2012 23:44
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