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first game
12.146 (+6.813
second game
11.187 (+7.772
= - 959 (+959 = 18959 spectators inn total
So you must be wrong in saying that inn the 12146 number the 6813 partners is counted in making 5814 free seats by what you are claming.
Edited by Rameses 14-01-2012 18:58



11 187 + 6813 = 18000

So before your last game you had 6813 partners and your total attendance for that match = 18000
After that game, you sold 959 more season tickets to bring the total number of partners to 7772. There is no bug and there is nothing wrong with the "attendance script".

In the time between your last game and now you gained a further 959 partners. If you check your finance records you will discover your season tickets revenue has increased 959 * the value of your season tickets.

If this still doesn't make sense to you then I'm afraid I can't help you anymore.


Edited by @practicesquad 15-01-2012 00:59
15/01/2012 00:59
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where did you get 11187 +6813 from? u cant just take a number from a diffrent game! and pluss it so it "makes" sense, i already told you i got more partners, but to fit them inn i lost regular attendances so the number is not 18000 but 18959 15/01/2012 03:23
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Rameses said:
@practicesquad said:
Absolutely, 100% positive



hmmm i think you are wrong todays game i took the price down from 74 to 60 result was this

General 18.000 11.187 (+7.772 Partners) = 18.959 same as last game spectator wise, and my proffit droped considrably. so i think you are dead wrong here, and that it is something wrong with the attendace script and that it should be looked at, please can you check higher up in the admin system to get a 100% confirmation on this? becouse if i lowered my ticket price by 14 i should have a good increase in seats, even with ekstra sales for my partners. its no logic inn how its writen there.

dont want to argue, want you to be right hehe but if you are right then its something completly wrong with the attendace script. for the first time ever i then got less people inn my gates when i drasticly lowered my prices.

inn what you are saying then the attendance from one game byers should be 3415 supporters, leaving 6813 free seats. about the same as i should have had last game and when i then dropp my prices so drasticly, attendance should not drop with almost 1000 spectaters

if you look at the numbers then the numbers of partner ticket sold matches excaclty the number of total seats less

first game
12.146 (+6.813
second game
11.187 (+7.772
= - 959 (+959 = 18959 spectators inn total
So you must be wrong in saying that inn the 12146 number the 6813 partners is counted in making 5814 free seats by what you are claming.

So my question arrises again. why do i have accactly 18959 sold seats on general when i can only fitt 18000 people inn there?
this is obviously a bug, and if you still claim im wrong please prove it

Edited by Rameses 14-01-2012 18:58


1. Are you saying your capicity increased to 18.959 instead of 18.000 or you are talking about the total spectator per match.

2. If you are talking about total spectator, i think you should check this example

e.g you hav 18000 general seat, and 2000 season ticket holder. And your last match recorded 15000 + 2000 season ticket (15000-2000)=13000 so you hav 13k spectator in that pay in that match
( you going to minus the season ticket holder from the total spector that seat in general section, bcos they are not paying for that match only the remaining 13.000 are paying bcos they are not season ticket holder)
but if you reduce your ticket fee and you also reduce your season ticket fee this is what u will get. E.g 17.000 + 7.000 season ticket is(17.000-7.000) = 10.000 so your spectator will still reduce and you will hav less income.
The more you get season ticket holder at lesser price the more you reducing the normal general spectator, and remember your seat can only accomodate 18.000, and if you up to 10.000 season tic.holder. That mean you only hav 8.000 seat left for other. Which they may not even fill it all.

Edited by Farias miguel 15-01-2012 04:20
15/01/2012 03:54
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yes but theres the problem if what you all are saying is true, then i should have had a drastic increase inn spectators when i lowerd my fee for general by 14 from 74 to 60. instead i had a deacrease inn numbers and increase inn partner spectators, insidently by the exact amount of season tickets, lost 959 seats on general gained 959 on season, if what you all are saying i have 6000+ free seats and should have seen more people come into my stadium.

instead i have the exact same number and if you add them both togheter you get 18959 spectators.
if you dont add them togheter i in the second game had 11187 spectators. and should have around 6800 free seats, but that dont make any sence since i lowered my price drasticly, only logical thing is that you must add the general seat 11187 (+7772. and its that + before the season tickets that means you must add them togheter basic math, and the only logical thing. or else i got for the first time ever a drasticly loss in numbers of spectators from lovering the entrance fee. so only logical thing is that you have to add those numbers togheter becouse you cant fitt any more people inn through the gates and therefore i got a loss of 959 spectators on thye one time buyers on general and got a increase of 959 season ticket holders. making the total number still 18959 spectators, on a stand that can only take 18000.

i have seen no explenations that what im seeing here isnt true. that you should add the general seats sold + the partner ticket sold making those to numbers added togheter your total sold tickets,

so something is definatly fishy here.
ill give inn if someone can provide evidence to the opposite but i can se no proves yet.

first game second game
12.146 11.187 = 959 less spectators on general
first game partners second game partners
6813 7772 = 959 more spectators. on partners
adding them togheter is the only sencible thing to do since it says 12.146 (+6.813 that + sign makes all the diffrence, and when you take into account that for the second game i lowered my one game sales from 74 to 60. i should have had a increse from the 12146 spectators if i really hadd almost 6000 free seats there, but i got a deacrese by the exact number of sold partners, so therefor it must be that you must add those to numberts togheter to get the correct attendance, but then you have more attendance than you have seats.




Edited by Rameses 15-01-2012 04:19
15/01/2012 04:15
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@practicesquad said:

first game
12.146 (+6.813
second game
11.187 (+7.772
= - 959 (+959 = 18959 spectators inn total
So you must be wrong in saying that inn the 12146 number the 6813 partners is counted in making 5814 free seats by what you are claming.
Edited by Rameses 14-01-2012 18:58



11 187 + 6813 = 18000

So before your last game you had 6813 partners and your total attendance for that match = 18000
After that game, you sold 959 more season tickets to bring the total number of partners to 7772. There is no bug and there is nothing wrong with the "attendance script".

In the time between your last game and now you gained a further 959 partners. If you check your finance records you will discover your season tickets revenue has increased 959 * the value of your season tickets.

If this still doesn't make sense to you then I'm afraid I can't help you anymore.


Edited by @practicesquad 15-01-2012 00:59



Let my try and explain this to you in a way that "makes sense".

first game 12.146 (+6.813
second game 11.187 (+7.772


OK. Now.

At the beginning of your second game, you had 6813 partners. How do I know this? Because 18000 (the number of general seats you have) - 11187 (the number of people who purchased tickets to general = 6813.

At the end of your second game, 959 more season tickets were sold, bringing the total number of season tickets you have sold to 7772. This will be reflected in your finances.

If you have 7772 partners immediately prior to your next game, then you will have (if you sell every general seat) 10228 general seats sold.

The number of partner tickets may increase immediately after the game, so you may get a result like 10228 + (8731 partners), but be 100% assured in every way, that you had 7772 partners going into the match and the surplus was purchased immediately afterward.

There is no bug here, there is nothing "fishy " about it, everyone experiences exactly the same thing at one point or another in this game.

15/01/2012 04:56
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i think there is problem somewhere in your team.
Last season b4 i knew about how partner are rubbing me, i hav 12000 general seat and hav average attendance of 9.250 in general seat with + 3500. If i should add is together =12.750 and that is beyond the capacity, but if i should minus it = 5750.
The + is to show you that out of 9250 general spectator i hav 3500 who has paid there fee at the begining of the season or who has just join.
Looking at your team with this formular, prev. Match is 12.146(+6.813) if you minus the season ticket =5333
2nd match ticket reduced form 74 to 64 11.187(+7772) = 3415
according to this formular in as much as you've reduced your fees the normal general should increase and the season ticket should also increase.
It should be something like this 14.000(+7772) =6.228.
15/01/2012 05:01
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Farias miguel said:
i think there is problem somewhere in your team.
Last season b4 i knew about how partner are rubbing me, i hav 12000 general seat and hav average attendance of 9.250 in general seat with + 3500. If i should add is together =12.750 and that is beyond the capacity, but if i should minus it = 5750.
The + is to show you that out of 9250 general spectator i hav 3500 who has paid there fee at the begining of the season or who has just join.
Looking at your team with this formular, prev. Match is 12.146(+6.813) if you minus the season ticket =5333
2nd match ticket reduced form 74 to 64 11.187(+7772) = 3415
according to this formular in as much as you've reduced your fees the normal general should increase and the season ticket should also increase.
It should be something like this 14.000(+7772) =6.228.



This is not correct, please read my post above.
15/01/2012 05:02
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you win an away game, people show up at your stadium ticket office or call in... and they say "sign me up for season ticket"


So, let's say you have a super small stadium: 20 people. 5 stand, 5 general, 5 pro, 5 VIP

Ok, so in first home game, you sell out, 20 people!!

Now, you have an away game... and win big!

2 people call and say "holy hell! I'll take season tickets and become a partner!"

you have still sold out your last game, and now you have 2 partners.

so, your last attendance is now 5 stand, 5 general (+2 partners), 5 pro, 5 vip

The (+ partners) refers to how many season ticket holders you currently have. Not how many attended last game.
15/01/2012 05:03
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Thanks reb, much appreciated 15/01/2012 05:04
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ok reb i hav stadium that can contain 20 people,
stadium=20
standing=5
general=5
pro=5
vip=5
and 2people came to get a season ticket after the match, in the next game you will hav general=5(+2), so my question is that is it 5+2=7 if so the spectator is more than the capacity of the stadium which is 20,
or 5(+2) which state that out of 5 general you hav 2 season ticket holder. Which = 20 people in the stadium.
Am somehow confused.
15/01/2012 05:44
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