Striker Manager. Market Place Madness!

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Baltimore Wa... Username 207 msgs. Substitute	i have had it, lol. Is it just me, or does any one else think recently managers are overpricing players on the market place? i know, i know, mid to late in the season, less transfer activity. HOWEVER--- no! i will not pay 10M for your 41/20 RDF! i dont care progression! seriously, do managers forget you can use your coach sec/scout to find reasonably priced players with appropriate progression and just hostile them? its fine to raise the ceiling on a player (e.g. you bought them at a price and don't want to lose money so you have the minimum at the level you made the purchase) or if you are only willing to sell if someone would purchase at that price, otherwise you are not hard up to sell the player. But i wish managers would AT LEAST see what a similar player went for prior to posting in the market place. It's insulting. They are like a proud parent, yes yes - your child is special, he made the honor roll. congrats. i'm sure your player is very valuable, wow his avg is 40, nice. HOWEVER, the 'invisible hand' place determines your players true value. AT CURRENT, 'THE INVISIBLE HAND' is the Hostile Clause. It is clearly a feature that forces individual managers to value their players and is a brilliant check and balance to the seemingly foolhardy, financially driven, greedy managers that overvalue players and will never sell them and just clog the market place. those same players go dirt cheap at the start of every season. just some thoughts...	08/12/2011 20:44
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beachbernie Username 797 msgs. MVP of the game	If You think a player's too expensive......simply don't buy him. I don't see where the problem is here...	09/12/2011 03:12
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rebsiot Username 5569 msgs. Golden Ball	Pay 10M now, or learn to watch div 1 (and probably 2) from the outside. High progression matters.	09/12/2011 03:22
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rabioso01 Username 1117 msgs. International	hmm... I think you are forgetting something else.... the dynamics of economics; the changes that have been implemented have had a direct impact on certain type, position and quality of player. I have seen the prices of these players rise- it is call demand combined with inflation. So, it is up to you, to assess if this is a temporary bubble that will burst or it is just how prices are adjusting to the changes of the game. I believe that prices are adjusting to the changes of the game, so in my opinion, players prices will not drop they will continue rising...	09/12/2011 03:43
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timnas Username 163 msgs. Substitute	@rebsiot said: Pay 10M now, or learn to watch div 1 (and probably 2) from the outside. High progression matters. 2nd this. Couldn't agree more about progression. You think avg 41 is high? Wait till you are in div3. Winner team is full with avg 80-90. And those player don't appear in the market (nor can be claused easily). It happen with training. And guess what is the most important thing when we train? Progression!	09/12/2011 12:01
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Baltimore Wa... Username 207 msgs. Substitute	timnas said: @rebsiot said: Pay 10M now, or learn to watch div 1 (and probably 2) from the outside. High progression matters. 2nd this. Couldn't agree more about progression. You think avg 41 is high? Wait till you are in div3. Winner team is full with avg 80-90. And those player don't appear in the market (nor can be claused easily). It happen with training. And guess what is the most important thing when we train? Progression! woah - tangent alert! i must say this before this thread goes off on a tangent on the importance of progression, which to be honest is everything in this simulation: 1 - the post was meant to be tongue in "cheek" (defined by wikipaedia as "the area of the face below the eyes and between the nose and the left or right ear.") 2 - i think the progression comment has been reduced and taken out of context. my point in this thread is to say there is no point to paying 10M for a player with 81 progression when you can pay 5M for a similar player with the same progression through hostile clause. obviously this does not apply when in div3 or div4 when managers realize this and find ways to protect their players - they got their for a reason, right? however, for me in div 5 and being a part of the simulator for only a few months now, my club is at the position that paying 10M for a player that can be gained throught a GB progression search at 5M is not in my financial interest. clearly progression matters. end point. i should have a disclaimer - this post is for the 99% of managers that are not in the elite divisions where cash flows like Niagara Falls, schools pump out high progression youths, and your biggest concern is whether to start your 77 avg 18 CF or you 78 avg 19 CF. this is for the 99%!	09/12/2011 15:43
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Seattle_Silv... Username 7 msgs. Cadet	How do you see "Progression" for players on the market?	09/12/2011 15:58
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Baltimore Wa... Username 207 msgs. Substitute	you can't. you can see it through a public school, or take the managers word for it - sometimes they will list it in the name of the player. if they promote a junior too soon, you can recover the avg by increasing the moral but the progression will be decreased (another thread showed at least a 10% reduction of the player with a good example) otherwise, you do a GB search with a minimum for the progression you want and when you coach sec or scout comes back with the results, you can hostile clause the player you want based on whats available. my whole point with this thread was to note that the hostile clause is becoming a reasonable way to value players, not market prices. if you look at the majority of 'similar transactions' on meaningful young players (30-40s avg with high progression), they are purchased either through transfer agreement or hostile clause. every now and then you can get a quality player through the market place but a lot of it can be rubbish. it is very similar to econ theory seen by malcom gladwell's 'the wisdom of crowds' - any one read it? the crowd is saying hostile clause is the way to go for div4,5,6,7. the game changes for upper table div4 and 3, etc i agree, prices are going up. the dollar/euro is not the same as it used to be. thats more a measure of inflation than anything else - - a separate thread, but interesting, as one would think salary and cost of stadium renovations would slightly offset that. demand for young talented players keeps the prices super high. we, smaller clubs, can only wait for the trickle down. one way to combat this may be to be able to convert game dollar/euro to GB, that way people would convert dollars/euros into GB, decreasing the available cash around and prevent the gradual increase in the cost of the average player compared to a few months ago? we need a federal reserve to adjust interest rates appropriately and shift the money supply around - too much spending -- i'm only joking about the federal reserve Edited by Baltimore Wanders Fc 09-12-2011 16:21 Edited by Baltimore Wanders Fc 09-12-2011 17:32	09/12/2011 16:17
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User deleted 298 msgs. First-team player	Hey Baltimore Wanders Fc, I understand & support your points here, my thought is also in the same way as yours even I may be not in that 99% I'd like to be your friend, my request has been sent, please accept Thanks.	09/12/2011 17:12
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solirocket Username 2737 msgs. Best scorer	oh, you havent seen inflation yet. Wait until we get people with full stadiums/schools...they will only be spending on players and then you will see how high prices will go.	10/12/2011 10:25
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