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I tell this again... now, it's very difficult to determine the price of that players, because progression and forecast also have a huge influence on it, that's why the +60 multioffers were disabled.

The only thing we can do now is to deduce it from lower transfers of similar players, or base the prices according to the market. All the @ are experienced players, in case you wanna purchase a player like that with transfer agreement and you're not sure about the price, ask us! Otherwise you take the risk of being sanctioned.
23/08/2011 17:29
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@shengli said:
I hope retaining topics won't be treated again in the forum. What happens with retained teams is private, and us the attorneys are the ones who deal with it. This case has been already solved, but I just wanna ask:

Do you really think the value of the player you purchased is 18 million? Be serious.

Edited by @shengli 23-08-2011 17:20



This is not justification, 'Be serious' means nothing, and is a cop out. In fact, it goes straight to the problem.

I gave prices. So what is the Market Value of this player, AND what is the tolerance? what, 15% below market too much and will get sanction? 5%?
23/08/2011 17:29
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rebsiot said:
@shengli said:
I hope retaining topics won't be treated again in the forum. What happens with retained teams is private, and us the attorneys are the ones who deal with it. This case has been already solved, but I just wanna ask:

Do you really think the value of the player you purchased is 18 million? Be serious.

Edited by @shengli 23-08-2011 17:20



This is not justification, 'Be serious' means nothing, and is a cop out. In fact, it goes straight to the problem.

I gave prices. So what is the Market Value of this player, AND what is the tolerance? what, 15% below market too much and will get sanction? 5%?


If you take a look into the market, or you look for similar purchases you inmediately realize that the price of +60 defenders are around 15m. I can show you many transfers in private like them if you want, some of them even reach 20m. For that reason, how could a 71 / 22 be worth in 18??
23/08/2011 17:33
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Perfect. So +60 Defender = 15M Some 20M

Older Defenders (70-71 avg) at top of forecast curve = 20-25M TOPS

So 10% UNDER MARKET = 20M FINE??? Give me a break.

We seriously cannot buy a player for 10% under an imagined market without sanction???

Edited by rebsiot 23-08-2011 17:37
23/08/2011 17:36
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@shengli said:
rebsiot said:
@shengli said:
I hope retaining topics won't be treated again in the forum. What happens with retained teams is private, and us the attorneys are the ones who deal with it. This case has been already solved, but I just wanna ask:

Do you really think the value of the player you purchased is 18 million? Be serious.

Edited by @shengli 23-08-2011 17:20



This is not justification, 'Be serious' means nothing, and is a cop out. In fact, it goes straight to the problem.

I gave prices. So what is the Market Value of this player, AND what is the tolerance? what, 15% below market too much and will get sanction? 5%?


If you take a look into the market, or you look for similar purchases you inmediately realize that the price of +60 defenders are around 15m. I can show you many transfers in private like them if you want, some of them even reach 20m. For that reason, how could a 71 / 22 be worth in 18??

sorry i have to talk you are the manager here you should decide the price
23/08/2011 17:39
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@shengli said:
rebsiot said:
@shengli said:
I hope retaining topics won't be treated again in the forum. What happens with retained teams is private, and us the attorneys are the ones who deal with it. This case has been already solved, but I just wanna ask:

Do you really think the value of the player you purchased is 18 million? Be serious.

Edited by @shengli 23-08-2011 17:20



This is not justification, 'Be serious' means nothing, and is a cop out. In fact, it goes straight to the problem.

I gave prices. So what is the Market Value of this player, AND what is the tolerance? what, 15% below market too much and will get sanction? 5%?


If you take a look into the market, or you look for similar purchases you inmediately realize that the price of +60 defenders are around 15m. I can show you many transfers in private like them if you want, some of them even reach 20m. For that reason, how could a 71 / 22 be worth in 18??

sorry i have to talk you are the manager here you should decide the price
23/08/2011 17:40
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Also market value <> transfer agreements or escape clauses! Market value is what you can get at auction.
23/08/2011 17:40
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rebsiot said:
Perfect. So +60 Defender = 15M Some 20M

Older Defenders (70-71 avg) at top of forecast curve = 20-25M TOPS

So 10% UNDER MARKET = 20M FINE??? Give me a break.

We seriously cannot buy a player for 10% under an imagined market without sanction???

Edited by rebsiot 23-08-2011 17:37


I think you don't have a proper vision of the value of this player. You are telling that this player is an older defender at the top of the forecast curve, but it's a 71 defender, that's a very high average, difficult to reach with training. Appart from that he is 22 years old, a very young one.

There's a very big difference of price between 60 and 70 average players, because with high averages training is not as effective. As an example, I can ensure you that a 80avg GK may cost 100 m. but a 90avg one may cost 1200, and you will see that in the future.

The few transfers of similar players like the one we are talking about were set in 35 - 40 mil, I can also show you if you want.

We are talking about a 50% under price...
23/08/2011 17:42
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tolufc said:
sorry i have to talk you are the manager here you should decide the price


The game would be crazy if market was like that, you can't sell at the price you want, you must follow the market price.
23/08/2011 17:44
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But what can you get at auction. ONLY AUCTION VALUE = Market value. What two people agree to in private is not a market value. Please show me the auction values for players of this caliber.
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